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Remember a very long time ago, during a Republican presidential debate last August (oh my god, TIME), when one of those moderator fellows asked the candidates whether they would reject a debt deal that required 10 dollars in spending cuts for every dollar in tax increases, and how everyone raised their hand to say that they would reject such a deal, even though Jon Huntsman later admitted that he didn’t mean to raise his hand, because he is not actually crazy? Well, Jeb Bush would now like to say that, because no one cares, he is free to admit that he would accept such a deal, and that also, the Republican party in general is “short-sighted” on immigration and tax policy issues, but he is only saying this because he is not running for office, and because Charlie Rose made him feel that he was in a safe space.

Granted, Rose, in a CBS interview Thursday morning, prompted Bush by asking whether he was “worried about the direction of your party.” But Bush was happy to opine that, well, yes, his party is “short-sighted” on two of the huge issues that it tends to dwell on: taxes and immigration.

Here’s the exchange:

In other turncoat news, enlightened vegan Bill Clinton thinks that Obama should lay off attacks on Romney’s tenure at Bain Capital and says he thinks Romney actually did wonderfully as a businessman, and Obama supporter Jackson Browne says he will still vote for Obama in November but the singer is not that into him at all, because he is now just “the lesser of two evils.” [Think Progress]

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  • nounverb911

    Jar Jar Bush would have a better chance of winning than Jeb.

    • But Jeb is "the smart one"! Just like Moe in the Three Stooges!

  • Barb

    That's sweet of Jackson Browne to stop beating Daryl Hannah long enough to endorse Obama.

    • He must have long arms, last I heard she was up in a tree in Tanzania or something

    • flamingpdog

      I hadn't heard that news about him beating sweet Daryl. Must not have made a big splash on the front page of my local newspaper.

      • George Skullfry

        It was quite a while ago. True, though.

    • anniegetyerfun

      I just looked up Jackson Browne, and he's neither a Jackson, nor brown. What gives?

  • Seems like it would have been easier to call his brother when he was president to complain about all this shit.

    • flamingpdog

      Dubya wouldn't listen to his daddy because he listened to a "higher father" instead. Mebbe he had a higher brother, too.

      • Geminisunmars

        That was probably Neil.

    • tessiee

      He tried, but Laura figured out how to turn the caller ID on, so every time Jeb called, Duhbya let it go to voicemail.

  • arduinohacker

    Maybe not so much by irrelevance, but by a past of making millions with money from Panamanian sources.

  • littlebigdaddy

    You know this is the Bush '16 campaign in embryo–the only non-crazy Republican.

    • HippieEsq

      if Jeb is waiting out the wave of "crazy" I'm afraid he'll be waiting longer than 2016. It's going to take decades for darwnisim (or whatever else might work) to fix what is wrong with the GOP primary process right now.

      • (or whatever else might work)

        Fire. And lots of it.

    • SeedCapital

      Bush '16: Third Time is the Charm

    • Not_So_Much

      He's not crazy, but I fear that he's evil as fuck. Which might be worse.

      • tessiee

        Based on nothing whatsoever, I think he's even meaner than his brother, and god knows his brother was a prick.

    • tessiee

      Embryo!! Oh, no, that means it's a person, or something!

      • littlebigdaddy

        Embryo Jar Bush approves of this message.

  • MissTaken

    Shit gets real when you are in the Charlie Rose Trust Tree.

    • SorosBot

      It's probably better than the Axl Rose Trust Tree.

      • flamingpdog

        Silly Soros – Roses don't grow on trees.

  • pinkocommi

    Papa Bush is right. Jeb is "the smart one." And, what does that make W.?

    • nounverb911

      A war criminal?

    • MissTaken

      The pickling brine for Fetus Jar Bush?

    • CivicHoliday

      A delightful commemorative hat rack?

    • The family drunk?

      • tessiee

        Now, now; he's also a cokehead.

    • widestanceromance

      W? No one in the GOP has ever heard of this fellow.

    • Exhausted66

      The successful one.

      (Joke's on us!)

    • Biel_ze_Bubba

      A Republican.

    • Callyson

      The smart ass?

    • Estproph

      A doorknob?

    • flamingpdog

      Dick Smothers?

    • tessiee


    • Negropolis

      Being the smart Bush is like being the non-annoying Kardashian.

  • Antispandex

    Oh please, dear sweet baby Jesus, please don't let this be a prelude to another Bush presidency! I just couldn't take "Bush 2016"…I'm sort of getting older and …no, please…

  • hollywooddood

    Sorry, Jeb, but it's just too soon for another brutally stupid Bush.

  • SexySmurf

    Bush/Clinton 2016!!!!!

    Let's just stop pretending we're still a democracy.

  • Bush was happy to opine that, well, yes, his party is “short-sighted” on two of the huge issues that they tend to dwell on: taxes and immigration.

    Eeeesh! Like listening to a rapist saying "we need to make night joggers less sexy"

  • SayItWithWookies

    Jackson Browne? The singer who was sorta the edgier James Taylor, who was last relevant in the late '80s with "Lawyers in Love?" That Jackson Browne? Well I'm just gonna have to wait to hear what Neil Sedaka thinks before I carve this opinion in stone.

    • who was last relevant in the late '80s with "Lawyers in Love?"


      (on which Darryl Hannah actually sang)

    • flamingpdog

      JB (not Jeb Bush) has been runnin' on empty for years now.

      • Estproph

        Perhaps, but he has prayed for America.

        • SayItWithWookies

          Thanks for reminding me — I'll hold that against him as well.

    • Callyson

      Well, let's hope "Runnin' on Empty" becomes real relevant to Mittens this fall…

    • Blueb4sunrise

      Tough crowd.

    • tessiee

      "Jackson Browne? The singer who was sorta the edgier James Taylor, who was last relevant in the late '80s with "Lawyers in Love?" That Jackson Browne?"

      I'm not sure; every time I tried to Google him, I ended up with some guy named Rick.

  • MaxNeanderthal

    As the Bush's were the bagmen for the Nazi's, they'd know all about tricky monetary and immigration issues…

  • BloviateMe

    I'm not watching the video if nobody's getting bitch-slapped. Major yawn.

  • HippieEsq

    Wonkette ought to buy pair of golden TruckNutz for any GOP politician who has the gonads to say these things while actually in office.

    • Wile E. Quixote

      Yeah, this should go down in history with Robert S. McNamara coming out and saying that the Vietnam war was a bad idea, 20 years after the war was ended and Albert Speer coming out and saying that Hitler was a bastard and that Naziism was bad, in 1946.

  • In fairness, you don't need really long vision to wank a tiny penis.

  • scvirginia

    If your last name is Bush or Clinton, I'm not int…zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • BigSkullF*ckingDog

    Bush 2016
    Cause third times a charm!

    • Dashboard Buddha

      The family will be like the first football team that won three superbowls. They of course will get the ring, but instead of just some plebeian stones and precious metal, the gold in these rings will be be forged over the coals of burning souls.

  • widestanceromance

    Why do I think some horrible "accident" is about to befall this man very soon?

    • tessiee

      Because you're an optimist.

      • Negropolis


  • nonbeliever7

    Sounds like Jeb just lost his SecState job to Orly Taitz.

  • flamingpdog

    Maybe I'm just being grumpy*, but the Bill Clinton story is so old (scroll down to near the end) that moss is growing on it and he's already apologized three different times and made other flubs not helpful to Barry since then.

    *Yes, I am being grumpy.

    • Lionel[redacted]Esq

      A former Wonketeer agrees with you:

    • tessiee

      "the Bill Clinton story is so old"

      Audience: HOW OLD IS IT??

    • Negropolis

      Yeah, you are a bit grumpy. And, the media also sucks, a lot. So, it's kind of a wash.

  • widestanceromance

    Calling them 'sighted' of any kind is a bit of a stretch, doncha think?

  • Callyson

    "It was living proof I'm not running for anything"

    Oh BS–it's living proof that you are angling for 2016.

    Jeb vs. Frothy Mix–looking forward to the freak show already…

  • Exhausted66

    Ya see! Brownes vote for Obama no matter what.

  • Callyson

    "Is this party only interested in less taxes, less regulation, and, rather than policies that promote growth, well, bigger tent?"

    Of course not, Charlie–there's also that business about putting womenz and gheyz and blahz and immigantz in their places…

    • Chichikovovich

      Well, they're certainly not interested in producing Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, despite amazingly persistent false rumors to the contrary toward the end of 2010.

    • ChapterUndVerse

      Doesn't the tent get bigger if you throw all the non-personz out? My tent mathematiks is pretty rusty.

  • Biel_ze_Bubba

    "Short sighted" is polite for "fucking blind."

  • Callyson

    "we need to change–not our views, not our policies, but our messaging"


    Oh shit, the voters are on to the Big Lie…

  • Lionel[redacted]Esq

    I can't wait for the next three days of FOX News coverage of how JEB is undercutting Romney's campaign, to balance out the three days of coverage they gave to Clinton.

  • Chick-Fil-Atheistâ„¢

    How mavericky. And moderate-ey. He should watch his fence-riding mouth, or a cabal of wingnuts will stuff him in a beaker like his brother.

  • TribecaMike

    No self-respecting prog takes their marching orders from Jackson Browne. Everybody knows Ry Cooder is The Man With The Plan.

  • Lionel[redacted]Esq

    Next big JEB Bush revelations:

    1) We really shouldn't invade countries based upon faulty intelligence and what is good for our Vice President's former company.

    2) Trying to run a government like a company is a stupid idea.

    3) Compromising on political ideas is the best thing for the country.

    4) Count all of the votes!!!

    • tessiee

      5) Don't put up a "Mission Accomplished" banner before the mission is actually accomplished.

      6) Don't get caught laughing, eating cake, and playing guitar while the dead bodies are still floating in the water after you failed to prevent a flood.

      But yeah, Jebbie is SO going to sit at the children's table next Thanksgiving.

  • Lionel[redacted]Esq

    By the way, did they play "The Final Countdown" when Bush was brought on set?

  • SorosBot

    Sorry Jeb, marrying a brown woman makes you unelectable to the Republican base.

    • freddymcmurray

      Tell that to Thomas Jefferson! Oh wait, you said marry.

  • Dashboard Buddha

    Jeb, can you show us on the tax code where the common sense touched you?

  • EatsBabyDingos

    Is Jeb the one in the fetal jar? I can't keep them straight.

  • TribecaMike

    Any word on what his federal-funds-scrounging-always-one-step-ahead-of-the-law brothers Neil and Marvin have to say about that?

  • Chichikovovich

    Though the immigration part isn't really a departure from Bush family doctrine. Brother Jorge W. tried to do the immigration reform thing (Rove can see the handwriting on the demographic wall as well as anyone) but the party revolted, as I recall.

  • Nostrildamus

    Enough Nazi stories for today!

  • rickmaci

    Gotta give him credit that he refuses to sign on to Gomer Norquist's dance card. Other than that he's just a slightly different flavor of the Republicon venom.

    • tessiee

      I thought the GOP wouldn't even let you in the door these days unless you fellated Norquist, then signed a loyalty oath to him in blood. Does Pigboy get a free pass because of his last name?

  • mavenmaven

    The fun thing would be if as a result of this, the Repubs excommunicated Bush, and he became the Democratic nominee in 2016. Would that not be amusing?

    • tessiee

      If by "amusing", you mean "surreal, yet projectile-vomit-inducing", then yes.

  • Tundra Grifter

    "Super Fake" – You just can't believe everything you read on the Internets.

    Actually, you never could…

  • Whatever it is that Bill Clinton's up to, I hope that the segment of Poutragers who were getting all nostalgic for the Mrs. Pantsuits Candidacy last year at the peak of Hopey-Hate, now have a good understanding of how much further to the right the Sainted Clintons are than the disgustingly Centrist Obama. Bill's a backstabbing asshole, also.

    These shenanigans are why I was more excited that Obama was black than that Clinton had a vagina, in 2008.

  • notreelyhelping

    And then Grover Norquist barged in, threw a glass of water in his face, and tried to air-slap him, until Charlie Rose stood up, and Grover fled the studio. Unfortunately, that part got cut.

  • Ryy

    Jeb Bush, old politician whose brother has made irrelevant with irrelevant sauce:
    Opinion on anything = no value

    Bill Clinton, old politician who started us down the path of the banking crisis, can't keep it in his pants, and refuses to believe no one cares anymore?:
    Opinion on anything = humorous, but no value

    Jackson Brown, old rock star (who in me opinion was dull as dullness):
    Opinion on politics = Seriously?

  • anniegetyerfun

    Just two issues, huh?

  • ttommyunger

    Soooo? Nobody – Right, Left or Center gives a flying fuck what anybody named Bush thinks about anything.

  • owhatever

    If Jeb is so smart, how come stupid George made him look like a pussy by elbowing into line in front of him. For 2014, Jeb plans to come out of the woodwork with a pre-emptive attack on Iraq by the Flodria National Guards and a unified militia. Every Bush attacks Iraq. It's a family tradition.

    • MosesInvests

      Jeb got held up by the fact that his first run at the Governor's mansion was against "Walkin'" Lawton Chiles, one of the best politicians that I can remember in Florida, and his campaign was basically, "Vote for me, I'm George Bush's son." That allowed wastrel older brother George Dubya to catch up with him. Also, too, Jeb didn't have an evil political genius like Rove working for him.

  • chascates

    Well, Jeb's the one whose wearing glasses.

  • HolyCow!!

    No, they are obsessed with four issues. He forgot gays & abortions.

    • freddymcmurray

      Five: freedom fries.

  • TribecaMike

    Jeb may be a low-down gutter snipe, but his Karl Rove impersonation is top shelf.

    And by the way, Jeb: 'gators got your granny.

    • tessiee

      Everybody said it was a shame, cause his mama was a workin on the chain gang.
      [a low-down, spiteful, straight razor totin' woman!]

  • Jeb thought that since no one watches Charlie Rose it was OK to act like a semi-rational human being

  • tessiee

    Ha, somebody told Porkchop Jeb that wearing glasses would make him look honest and smart, and he actually bought it!

  • tessiee

    Bush? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that family has already spent that nickel.

  • Negropolis

    Jeb is the Bush clone that went the least wrong, but is still highly defective.

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