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If global warming is real, why is there still delicious frothy ice cream, huh?

Poor ol’ Rick Santorum is already having a hard time keeping up with the Conservaherd in the Great 2016 Republican Coronation Scramble. Just look at his lame, thoroughly derivative attempt to ignore climate science during a Thursday event in Des Moines, Iowa:

One man stood up during the event’s Q&A portion, expressing concern about climate change. Addressing it, the audience member said, should be an imperative to Christians commanded by the Bible to be stewards of the Earth.

“I always have problems when people come up and say the science is settled,” said Santorum, a Republican presidential candidate and winner of the 2012 Iowa caucuses. “That’s what they said about the world being flat. When someone says the science is settled you’re not a scientist, because scientists never say the science is settled.”

He added: “The idea that the science is settled, to me, tells me that this is political science, not real science.”

Yeesh, Rick, you’re plagiarizing your anti-science talking points from a third-rate Louisiana legislator now? At least you didn’t say that scientists used to burn people at the stake for not believing in the flat Earth, so there’s that.

Also, for the sake of pedantry, we should note that we’re not sure we agree with you 100 percent on your science work there, Senator:

1) No “scientists” (a word that only entered English usage in 1834) ever insisted that the world was flat. That idea was largely discredited by Greek mathematicians, like Eratosthenes, who had already calculated the circumference of the Earth by the second century BCE. And it was the Catholic Church, not scientists, which insisted that a spherical Earth was the center of the universe, and which accused Galileo of heresy for saying otherwise.

2) While science is always being refined and clarified, it’s also not such a mishmash of unknowable wibbly-wobbly stuff that nothing at all is “settled.” Gravity, the speed of light, the germ theory of disease, evolution, the age of the Earth — these have all been tested and re-tested enough that it’s fair to call ’em settled, although there’s still plenty more to be learned as you get into the fiddly bits. Same goes for climate science: While there’s still a hell of a lot to be understood about the dynamics of how it all works, 97 percent of climate scientists agree that human activity is changing the planet’s atmosphere, and that it’s already having measurable effects. That’s not a guess, you moron. And Ben Carson (the creationist) wonders why people think Republicans are anti-science.

Rick Santorum actually knows quite well that science can be “settled.” He flew to Iowa on a machine that’s the cumulative result of a whole lot of settled aerodynamic research, even though scientists and engineers are still discovering new ways to improve aircraft design and propulsion. But there is 100 percent agreement that the shape of the plane’s wing is what gets it up in the air — no one’s going to suddenly discover that it’s really the collective brainpower of the passengers that psychically lifts the machine, a fact easily proven by the fact that no plane carrying Rick Santorum has ever fallen out of the sky.

Frankly, Ricky, you disappoint us. Where’s the college-educated guy who boldly declared wanting people to go to college “snobbish”?

[Des Moines Register]

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  • LarryHoudini

    As a devout catholic, you’d think Santorum would align his thinking closer to the pope’s. Dipshit.

  • Toomush_Infer

    Science is still out on what comprises santorum….

    • weejee

      It’s a slippery slope.

  • Spotts1701

    Science is not settled on how Rick Santorum functions without working cognitive skills though.

    • weejee

      Not sure I want to know who playing with his his joy stick though.

  • BadKitty904

    AND he can’t even corndog right.

    • weejee

      She1ey applauds.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      I think that is a shitsicle, not a corndog.

      • Charles Wolf

        Looks like a Frozen-Santorum-Slurpee-Cone.

        • nmmagyar

          I’m not sure if I love you or hate you for that comment

          • Charles Wolf

            Sometimes relationships are like that.

      • willi0000000

        with the sun shining through the tip there it looks more like a deep-fried, uncut penis.

        [good luck getting your testicles to descend from your chest cavity now]

        • Gleem-McShinez

          I was thinking more like the light came from inside. It’s E.T.’s “other finger”

  • mosjef

    Rick Santorum is a candidate only to change his Google search results from frothy excretion to talking anus.

  • memzilla

    We need to come up with a word that describes the Santorum Effect, that is, people actually get stupider from having listened to him. Reladerpity? Quantum dumbanics?

    • Mehmeisterjr

      The Sciengrfitic Method?

    • JohnBull

      Reaganomia?

      • calliecallie

        Reagamnesia.

        • Blank Ron

          What were we talking about again?

      • Anarchy Pony

        Reagomania.

      • Mehmeisterjr

        Reaganomie?

    • lynchie

      The Shit for Brains Theorem or How to keep a corpse alive in 10 easy lessons

    • vivian

      Ricktardation?

    • vivian

      Santorpor? Santorus? Santorture?

    • MrBlobfish

      Trickle Down Theory

    • Querolous

      Derpentology?

  • lucidamente

    While science is always being refined and clarified, it’s also not such a mishmash of unknowable wibbly-wobbly stuff that nothing at all is “settled.”

    I thought Santorum was a mishmash of unknowable wibbly-wobbly stuff.

    • Kat Anyperson

      There is a Dr Who joke here begging to be made…

      • SuspectedDemocrat

        Santorum is slimey-wimey.

        • Kat Anyperson

          I facepalmed but still laughed. Thanks for the chuckle :)

  • Kat Anyperson

    Rick learned in his last bid that the good residents of Pennsyltucky will never let the nation forget about his grifting of our school systems. Uttering the word “education” brings us out in droves.

  • Tallmutha

    97 percent of climate scientists agree that human activity is changing the planet’s atmosphere…

    Look at it this way: On economic policy, Republicans only listen to the one percent. At least on climate change they’re being a little more inclusive and listening to the three percent. Progress!

  • I’m not a scientist but I know another non-scientist when I see one.

  • diogenez

    Rick is into uncircumcised black guys?

    • weejee

      Urban legend. They’re not a meter stick.

    • Metadude

      I heard it was Asian trannies. But we can agree to disagree.

  • ArgieBargie

    Santorum knows that the earth is not flat. It’s round and five thousand years old.

  • SuspectedDemocrat

    The Bible says the earth is flat. With a dome for the sky, and floodgates above that. Kinda like a giant snow globe with shepherds and angels. Teach the controversy!

    • Enfant Terrible

      The Bible teaches that the value of pi is 3. I just don’t want to drive across any bridges designed by biblically-inspired engineers.

      • MrBlobfish

        Mmmm. Pi.

      • Blank Ron

        Can’t be a whole lot more dangerous than the ones that are already (just barely) standing.

    • Riley Whodat Venable

      I thought the angels on the corners meant Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, and Utah.
      Or was it that Anahiem had runners on 1st and 3rd.

    • Amy!

      Controvert the teaching.

  • weejee

    science is always being refined and clarified

    ‘Cause better yardsticks with which to measure and more time to sit cogitating on a log. Moved from bars to wavelengths. An no, not those kinda bars, ones like the one below.

    drink

  • Mehmeisterjr

    To be fair, Santorum’s science advisor, Jim Bob, was unavailable for consultation.

    BTW – Has anybody pointed out to Rick that if the dominionists get their way, it’s gonna be waaaay dangerous to be a Cat’lic?

    • marxalot

      I know! As a lapsed Papist myself, I do not understand the American Catholic conservative habit of standing that close to a bunch of dominionists, for whom Pope Frank is competing against Obama for Head Anti-Christ and Screwer of the Whore of Babylon in Chief. They’ll know-nothing your head right onto a pike, Ricky.

  • Metadude

    IF WE DON’T HAVE A GRAND UNIFIED THEORY, THEN ALL SCIENCE IS OPINION!!!!!!1111

    • willi0000000

      so . . . i should just go with my GUT then?

  • dslindc

    It’s not the plane’s wings that lifts it, it’s Jesus, obviously!

    • willi0000000

      nope! . . . NIST just pays a guy in DC to sit around all day and believe really hard in Bernoulli.

      • bobbert

        So MH370 was this guy sneaking an unauthorized smoke? Makes as much sense as anything, I guess.

        • willi0000000

          he was a PATCO rehire.

          [and you know how shiftless and lazy they were . . . never willing to work 24/7]

    • Latverian Diplomat

      Santorum kept the plane in the air the whole time with his feverish, white-knuckled prayers, and not a single, atheist fellow passenger said thank you.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      Gravity is just a theory.

  • whitroth

    About that collective brainpower keeping airlines up? My late ex, who was an actual rocket scientist and worked at KSC on the Shuttle, among other things, used to say that the Shuttle, with engines at 105% on liftoff, still didn’t have the power… but for the tens of thousands watching, “out on the warm water shore”…. (“Witnesses Waltz”)…..

    mark

    • SuspectedDemocrat

      So it really does take a rocket scientist.

  • Poly_Ester

    The snake oil salesmen you feature on Sundays would probably tell you the germ theory of disease is just a theory.

  • SuspectedDemocrat

    How do you know CO2 is a greenhouse gas and we are on track to double the amount in the atmosphere? WERE YOU THERE HUH?

    • Enfant Terrible

      I just noticed that your avatar is the Yip-Yips. Terrifying!!!

    • Anarchy Pony

      Yes.

  • Sam Hain

    I’ve met potatoes with more wit and wisdom.

    • Mehmeisterjr

      Yeah but those potatoes are all future French fries, thus unamerican.

      • Kat Anyperson

        Unless they were from Idaho. Then they transform into Freedom Fries.

        • Mehmeisterjr

          And then Dennis Hastert eats them all.

        • Riley Whodat Venable

          Who da ho?

    • willi0000000

      from The Book of Wonderfulness™

      “Even a potato in a dark cellar has a certain low cunning.”
      – Samuel Butler

  • Mehmeisterjr

    Rick is the derp beneath my wings.

    • Enfant Terrible

      You’ll never get off the ground unless you clean that shit up.

  • nmmagyar

    Rick – do not make Pope Frank call you personally to tell you what your fucking religion’s stance is on Climate Change is. Hint: it’s man-made and a fucking sin not to try to stop it. A SIN RICK!!!! Just like when you touch yourself or have dirty thoughts about Beyonce.

    • lynchie

      One time at band camp Rick got a boner and it was able to point at the North Star. So he claimed he was an astronomer.

      • Band Camp Boner!!

        • H0mer0

          what I missed because I played the violin and not well (the dog would push the bedroom door open with his head and give me that Abe Vigoda look whenever I tried to “practice”)

    • Blank Ron

      If he follows the Repub playbook he can just squeal, ‘I didn’t vote for him so he’s not MY Pope!’

      • nmmagyar

        If he tries that he will go straight to hell. And get the nuns set loose on his ass with their “Mighty Yardsticks of Correction”

  • Hey Ricky, it’s not exactly “settled” yet that there is a Gawd or not.

    • nmmagyar

      “In 2012 Wonkette was bought by LA journalist Rebecca Schoenkopf, and as far as I know she still has it.” WTF, lazy ass half-journalist, would it break your little fingers to click on the fucking masthead of the greatest (non-porn) website on the planet?????!!!!!!

      • Metadude

        Ken’s reign at Yr Wonkette was merely an interregnum between two strong, smart, buttsechs-loving women.

      • Oooh. I’m disappoint in Kevin myself. On the other hand (besides the warts) there’s this.

      • Toomush_Infer

        This is a non-porn website???!!! So I should quit waiting????….

        • nmmagyar

          99% of us are in our underwear (or less), so that might still count as porn…

          • Damnit, did I leave the webcam on again? Sorry.

          • MrBlobfish

            Pantsless Fridays! WooHoo!

          • nmmagyar

            Sure, because it’s Friday…

          • Blank Ron

            EVERY Friday is Pantsless Friday! Also every Monday, every Tuesday, every… but you can all see where this is going, right?

          • riledupone

            If it’s a day with a “y” in it.

          • jmk

            I started wearing pants the moment Evan implied that monitors worked both ways.
            Respect, you know.

          • nmmagyar

            I have a band-aid over my camera lens (because I can’t find the actual controls to disable my web cam((it came with the laptop)))

          • jmk

            Duct tape works also too, and comes in a wide variety of attractive colors and patterns.

          • Mehmeisterjr

            That’s the best solution anyhow, since hackers have figured out how to activate cameras without even letting you know they are on. Of course, if you have a desk top and separate camera, you can always unplug it, but that involves reaching around back.

      • btwbfdimho

        I missed her baby shower…

        • H0mer0

          That’s why I always covered the privates with a diaper even as I changed them (something about the cool air hitting the tip makes them go.)

          • Biel_ze_Bubba

            That’s done to keep them from pissing in your eye.

    • btwbfdimho

      Layne: “”I thought everyone could use less news.”
      Indeedy. Now, we interact with each other at the speed of light (instead of the speed of sound, and tete-a-tete). In consequence, we’re dealing with a continuous tsunami of BS (Bull Shit).
      How to separate the “signal” or “meaning” from the noise? The brain is a very obsolete and dirty filter, and I haven’t developed my app, the BSD or Bull Shit Detector, yet.
      What about an anti-social network, in the meantime.

  • memzilla

    BREAKING: LA Times says Hastert abused a man. Also, CSPAN video of Hastert taking an uncomfortable phone call. Geez, there’s almost no room left on my schaden for any more freude.

    • marxalot

      Okay, I think we all saw that one coming, but anyone who had “by the end of the day” in the When Do We Find Out About Teh Gay Abusing pool, step up and claim your prize.

    • beatbort

      If memory serves, Hastert was for years a high school wrestling coach. He really enjoyed that group grope, Greco-Roman style.

    • MrBlobfish

      Rick Santorum is Individual A.

  • beatbort

    I believe the science is settled on Santorum’s chances to win an election. To any office.

  • Celtic_Gnome

    You know, as entertaining as this all is, I don’t know if I can take another Santorum candidacy. I’m allergic the sweatervests. Whenever I see one, it makes my eyeballs sweat.

    • JohnR

      He’s going for the blue collar vote this time around if he can stay on topic, (hint ask him about sex and he won’t be able to shut up) so he’ll probably get a Carhartt jacket, some flannel shirts and dad jeans.

      • Lefty Frizzell

        None of these entitled fucks are blue collar – they just make some sort of claim to blue collar “roots”. My grandfather grafted so I could grift.

        • JohnR

          Billionaire Bruce Rauner wore a barn coat during his campaign and he is now toolshed, anti union Governor of Illinois.

          • H0mer0

            I wonder if someone is going to find any dirt on him so he follows the proud tradition of other Illinois guvners.

        • H0mer0

          you saw what happened when the repubs last elected a blue collar tool. (Although they keep fellating his corpse, he would be considered left of center today.) The Kochs and Adelson cannot take chances with their Manchurian Candidate making any populist slip ups.

  • Lefty Frizzell

    Hey Rick – is it “settled science” that the world is not flat? What a fucking moron.

  • say wha

    Rick, on fourth down, you shouldn’t go for it, you should punt. – Scott Walker-

  • calliecallie

    My compliments to wonkette on what I perceive to be a sudden improvement in advertising. I now have to buy a waffle iron, although the add was for Pam cooking spray. Also very impressed by the Pitch Perfect inspired pitch for leg shavers. Maybe I am just easily distracted today.

    • Bad Granny

      A few years ago I bought one of those flippy ones like they have in hotels just cuz they entertain Grandpa. It might be the best idea I ever had.

      • H0mer0

        “flippy” models or waffle irons?

  • OneYieldRegular

    With all the Santorum that continually spews from Rick Santorum’s mouth, I’m astonished that the Vatican hasn’t sent an exorcist yet.

    • Riley Whodat Venable

      Don’t worry, Bobby Jindal will be available soon.

  • VandeGraf

    No scientists were injured during the Santorum news conference. Of course, they might have been injured, because nothing is ever settled or certain, because that’s not scientific. What we can say, with Santorum-like certainty is that it is likely that no scientists were injured duing what might have been a news conference if observations are verified sufficiently, within a margin of error Jesus to the nth.

  • D_C_Wilson

    Remember, Santorum won more primary states than any republican except Mittens Romneybot last time around. Don’t count him out of the clown car yet.

    • Boscoe

      Well, even Gingrich won 2. The bar doesn’t seem very high… ;))

      • Me not sure

        They actually buried the bar when Ben Carson got in.

  • JoeChristmas

    Santorum : epistemology :: Duggar : ethics

  • Riley Whodat Venable

    He seems to be doing purple crayon practice.

  • VandeGraf

    Finally, a picture of a GOP luminary fellating something other than a corn dog!

    • Me not sure

      Once you’ve had chocolate you’ll never go back to vanilla.

      • Blank Ron

        Perhaps it’s me being bigoted, but I really prefer caramel over chocolate.

        • Unforgotten

          Strawberry, or lemon, or cherry, or…
          Chocolate is good, but is so… easy for me to prefer any other flavor…

        • H0mer0

          I thought you were straight! (not that there’s anything wrong with “dabbling”) heh heh..

          (one of my 15-year-olds also shakes his head at my immaturity)

          • Blank Ron

            Let’s just call it gently curved, okay? *grins*

    • ButchWagstaff

      Or a Koch cock.

  • Boscoe

    man, it drives me SO NUTS when these assholes try to claim the flat Earth notion was ever “science”!!!1! But it reveals a LOT about their intelligence when you consider that they’re happily conflating the randomly chosen beliefs of imbeciles with actual scientific method…

    • mrpuma2u

      C’mon it’s totally science-y! I set a ball down, and observe that it does not move, QED the earth is flat. Newton sez so, or somthin….

  • JohnR

    That appears to be “CHOCOLATE ice cream” little Sick Rick is going down on in the photo at the top of the page, FWIW.

  • Electric Ukelele Land

    In this case, saying “it’s not settled” is just loser talk for “I absolutely refuse to believe because of …reasons”

    There are really two camps on the denial side — those who’s financial interests would be curtailed by any sort of regulation. And then there are the Santorums of the world, who just can’t accept that anyone who sees the world differently than they do could possibly be right about anything. So short-sighted greed vs. basic immaturity.

    • Jen_Baker_VA

      Santorum though falls into both of your categories. His grift machine would dry up like a Texas oil well ( in about 100 years) were he to allow science to be scientific, and, he is A idiot.

  • ryp

    Ricky, you were supposed to give head to Foster Friess, not Foster’s Freeze.

  • William Burns

    Er, no. Plenty of scientists in the Middle Ages and the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries supported geocentric theories of the cosmos, although not the flat earth. Tycho Brahe would be one (non-Catholic) example, but there were many others.

    • btwbfdimho

      Tycho Brahe sounds Middle-Age gay. Did they barbeque him a-la Giordano Bruno?

      • TundraGrifter

        Sounds Celtic to me. Like the Boston Celtics.

        • William Burns

          Danish.

      • smut clyde

        Did they barbeque him a-la Giordano Bruno?
        Brahe burst his bladder at a party because he was enjoying himself too much and didn’t want to leave for a piss-stop. Like William Burns says, he was Danish. I am not making this up.
        Buried in Prague because PARTY CENTRAL.

  • btwbfdimho

    Texas is Christian and flat. FYI non-believers: last night I saw Jesús walking on the Trinity River.

    • H0mer0

      I saw Jeebus kissing Santa Claus…

      (oops, sorry, wrong thread…I’ll let myself out……)

    • david green

      How could he find it under all that other water?

  • Blank Ron

    Facts go in, santorum comes out, you can’t explain it.

  • Paperless Tiger

    Science involves a method for proving things, so it’s not just theory. It’s a discipline of best evidence, subject to peer review. That’s how they settle it. If you want to challenge it, do the work.

    • Unforgotten

      WHY?
      He knows he’s right. He’s God ‘Number One’ Crrusader against those heatens and atheists, who dare to put what he (Santorum, not God) believes is true in question, so he don’tneed no freaking scientific method.
      Just his faith.

  • Silence Is Golden
  • Silence Is Golden

    The scariest thing about all these twits strutting around spewing their idiocy is that enough people actually thought these idiots were smart enough to hold public office. The saddest thing is that the ones smart enough to no better didn’t bother to vote!

  • Eric Bacon

    Probably the most horrible part of climate change (in my opinion) is that the industrial world is creating the suffering for the 3rd world which has suffered so much already. Rich countries will suffer, but not like the people already at the bottom.

  • Slinger

    Rick Santorum doing a “Denny Hastert” to that ice cone.

    • CognizantImpiety

      I think that cone is filled with frozen “santorum”.

  • Incoming Ham

    Dude should just walk around with an audio prompter so that someone can tell him what the current constituent poll numbers say is the right answer. He will never figure it out himself.

  • PattyCake

    But there is 100 percent agreement that the shape of the plane’s wing is what gets it up in the air
    No. It’s the combination of the shape of the wing and the angle of attack. I’m not a scientist, but I like to have sex with them, and I often pay attention to what they’re droning on and on about as I unbutton their shirts.

  • Scott Richmond

    I’m tired of the term “climate change.” It’s global warming, got dang it.

  • Alice Wolfson

    In the photo, is Ric giving a blow job to that ice cream cone? I think the worried look on his face suggests the struggle he’s having between loving it and being afraid of alienating his supporters

    • mo_dem

      Man on cone.

    • JustPixelz

      Silly Santorum. You don’t throat-cram an ice cream code like that! You lick around the edges, occasionally moving to the tip to suck away the melted liquid. Then nibble at the hard coating, little bites, some gentle, some rough. Use your tongue to press the ice cream deep down into the cone. Keep licking, nibbling and tonguing until you can put the base in your mouth letting it burst open with delicious ice cream.

      • david green

        I’ll be in my room.

      • Alice Wolfson

        . It’s very gracious of you to offer these helpful hints to Ric. Once he masters the ice cream cone he’ll be ready to move on to a hot dog and after that who knows?

    • Ryan Denniston

      I really am enjoying the cone/corndog motif. Can it be the theme for 2016 election coverage?

      • Alice Wolfson

        Good idea! It would be a great theme because it suggests the down home fun of a county fair instead of the usual feeling of depression and hopelessness caused by election coverage.

        • Ryan Denniston

          I was thinking of blowjobs from gay haters, but country fair too!

  • Bob Harrow

    Great technique. Hold base go in slow. Use toungue sic out of sight. Yum. Gotta love ricky boy…

  • lesterthegiantape

    Theory (n):

    1. “a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena”

    [several other meanings]

    6. “contemplation or speculation”

    The confusion comes from this here. It blows my mind that an entire stratum of humanity (sic) can pretend the word “theory” only really means one of its latter definitions, ignoring the scientific application completely. That’s like saying “I am tired” and somebody else insisting this is a confession that you are an automobile, because you are equipped with tires.

    This is probably why people from non-English speaking countries (meaning anywhere except Merka) can’t pull this bullshit — their languages don’t happen to come equipped with this particular escape valve for weasel-ass weasality.

    Now I have to go lie down in a dark room with a moist cloth on my brow.

    • frambley1

      Since you are isolated in a dark room, you may both exist and not exist at the same time.

  • JustPixelz

    Dick Cheney (boo, hiss) said any terrorist threat with a 1% possibility of success should be treated as certainty. Obviously — even to amoeba — global warming is well above the 1% threat level.

    Meanwhile, there is no, no, NO evidence that tax cuts create jobs. The economic science on it is settled. But Reptards like Santorum still promulgate this faith-based theory.

  • smitallica

    “Addressing [climate change], the audience member said, should be an imperative to Christians commanded by the Bible to be stewards of the Earth.”
    Absolutely amazing. Even when conservatives are accidentally right about science, it’s for all the wrong fucking reasons.

    • m3bosha

      But if that is what it takes to get them there, so be it I guess.

      Wait until they figure out that the bible says a person isn’t a person until momma births it. It will blow their minds!

  • Santana999

    When he is out spreading Santorum all over the place, does some guy follow him with a roll of baby wipes?

  • mtn_philosoph

    Re: Galileo — a few points of clarification:

    — geocentrism wasn’t a purely theological doctrine. It was the prevailing secular view since the days of Aristotle and Ptolemy.
    — not everyone in the Catholic Church opposed Galileo. The Jesuits, for example, generally agreed with him, especially after obtaining their own telescopes and performing their own observations, which confirmed Galileo’s statements. They did dispute a few of them, though, but it was an intellectual debate with no implications of heresy.
    — Pope Urban VIII supported Galileo’s research and was on cordial and friendly terms with him. Galileo’s adversaries were a handful of theologians and a few members of the Curia, but the Pope was not one of them.
    — the thing that really got Galileo into trouble was his book Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems. It consisted of an imaginary debate among three scholars over the place of the Earth and the nature of the celestial sphere. One of the debaters, a character named Simplicio (the Simple One) defended the traditional geocentrist views of Aristotle, which were thoroughly refuted by the other two characters. Galileo’s friend and benefactor, the Pope, had pressed Galileo to include his own viewpoint in the book, and when it was published, the Pope’s input was spoken by Simplicio, the foolish one. It wasn’t Galileo’s defense of Copernicanism that ultimately landed him in prison; it was the charge of defamation of the Pope.

    • Steven Dutch

      Oh, you nailed it. I often describe Galileo as a 17th Century Carl Sagan, a brilliant scientist but best known as a popularizer of science, and someone with an abrasive manner that made enemies. But Galileo didn’t go to prison. His “house arrest” was basically loose surveillance.

  • Steven Dutch

    Rick Santorum so illiterate he not know that NOBODY in educated circles in the West said the earth is flat for at least the last 2500 years. How us know? Because Ptolemy, the guy who supposedly hamstrung Western astronomy for centuries, explicitly said in the Almagest that the Earth is a sphere. He also said that compared to the sphere of the stars, the earth is a point with no measurable size. That famous “medieval” woodcut we’ve all seen showing some guy crawling to the edge of the earth and looking out at the clockwork of the heavens is a 19th century artist’s conception (Google “Flammarion woodcut”).

  • Everhope

    I think what we are experiencing is the breakdown of capitalism. We, as a result, are living in the death throes of the fantasist notion of democracy and the republics on which they rested. As all sorts of fantastical notions spread, we need to take some comfort that all great civilizations have gone through this and most people, while not unscathed, did come through it. This isn’t to say that we shouldn’t fight the Christian crazies or the the Constitutional crazies afoot in the land, but it is to recognize that this has happened before and will happen again. But at some point in these disintegrating civilizations people of good conscience need to take a stand and fight off the worst effects of the degradation upon us.

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