Good morning, America! Does this map look familiar to you? Of course it does, it’s the map appearing on every newspaper website in the country, indicating which party won all the various states in the Electoral College in last night’s election. Except this particular map actually comes from Nate Silver’s math and numbers emporium, and was created before any votes were counted! Is this proof that all elections will be replaced by the soulless beeping of IBM computers? Let’s hope!
The creepiest thing about Nate’s prediction is that the only state that he didn’t claim better than 79% certainty about was Florida, which he called as an almost exact tie (probability of going for Obama: 50.3%). Naturally Florida is, as of this writing, leaning towards Obama but still too close to call.
Anyway, we would like to urge everyone to go read this Politico piece again about how dumb and wrong Nate is and how math and numbers are ruining political punditry forever, and then laugh and laugh at how upset people were by the concept that you could tell how an election might turn out by asking people in advance how they’ll vote and then figuring a way to accurately assess the answers they give. And then turn yourself into your local processing center to have your brains replaced by microchips and your guts by circuitry, because everything great about being a human being in general and a political pundit in particular has now been ruined forever.
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Political pundits need to seek a new line of work. I suggest wedding planning.
o/t – Allen West(FL-Reprobate) OUT.
Gay wedding planning. It's a growing field. Or maybe open a smoke shop in Boulder.
Actually, in WA. I believe CO is failing the pot initiative.
Colorado and Washington won. Oregon failed – too many Mormons there.
Too many Mormons and not nearly as progressive as it likes to pretend it is (also you'd be surprised what uptight, pearl clutching, Betty Draper type busybodies all the Portland hipster moms really ARE).
CO probably passed it along libertarian lines, WA really simply IS more liberal than OR
Yesss…I was lighting "Bowls for 'Bama" all night long…what happened?
A lot of walking embarrassments were voted out or not voted in last night. West, Akin, Mourdock, Bartlett, Walsh. Too bad Bachmann didn't join them.
Enough Dems in her district chose cheap laughs on Wonkette over party and country to kept her in office.
It's not the first position that West has been dishonorably discharged from.
And Allen Grayson is back IN!!!!
Wait. You want people who bucked the historical tide of 98% re-election to Congress to plan *anything*????
Now THIS is news I like to wake up to!
Being smart is sexy again.
For some of us, it never wasn't.
John Hope Bryant ("The Silver Rights Movement") has been pushing this concept for a while, and I think it is a good one.
Or – "Brainy is the new sexy," as Irene Adler said earlier this year in "A Scandal in Belgravia" (BBC's "Sherlock").
I've known it all along. *wink, wink*
All hail our gay robot wizard overlords!
Did someone say wizard overlords?
http://i.imgur.com/srTAv.jpg
A hearty 220dB "HA-HA" at Unskewedpolls guy.
Where's your landslide, Macho man?
Looks like Morning Joe will have to be writing a check after his bet with Saint Nate. And Dick Morris got his come-upins. A marvelous schadenfreude strudel.
There was no point to Unskewedpolls beyond mitigating Republican voter suppression, and having "one of their own" the way Right-Wingers and Christianists always have to have their own versions of things normal people enjoy.
It will be interesting to see what happens to Unskewedpolls now that he was so utterly and profoundly wrong. As he's conservative, though, he may toddle right along as if nothing happened.
New numbers guru on Fox – gotta be a done deal by now (judging by all the other sacks of fail they employ).
There is a 127% chance of this happening.
Say, do you remember when Fox News had an astrologist on their Business Channel?
You mean put his fingers in his ears and sing "lalalalala I am not listening to you"?
UnscrewedPolls will morph into a page on Conservapedia, where it will can remain well-insulated from reality.
Abandoned domain name taken over by a porn site………. perhaps pole dancing live strippers…
If you take out the states that were biased against Republicans, then Romney won by a landslide.
You see, that's it exactly.
Bias played such a big part in this election. and that's without mentioning the $100 million the Cock Brothers spent. Doh. I said I wasn't going to mention the Cock brothers $100 million… oh fuck, I've just one it again.
Sorry.
I said it when he started his postings:
You can work the ref, you can't work the scoreboard.
The sad thing is, if this asshole hadn't gotten all rowdy, the conservatives might have paid a bit more attention to the real polls and started doing the work they needed to do in Virginia and Wisconsin to win the damned thing.
Not that I'm complaining, mind you, just laying out the argument I'll be making when my conservative friends all go, "But…but…UnskewedPolls!"
Don't give them any Pro Tips!
Listen, the Congressional caucus went even MORE batshit rightwing last night, so I don't think we're in any danger, except, you know, for getting shit done and maybe saving people from yet another catastrophic storm.
Like they're going to listen to egghead liebrul sissies.
I wanted to go post on his site– my schaden is feeling a little freude-y today — but my fucking firewall blocks it.
I've been doodling "Mrs. Nate Silver, Barb Silver, Nate and Barbara Silver" all morning. Nate, call me!
Isn't it nice when facts win out over gut feelings and "momentum"?
Funny how that works…
Terry:
Don't forget (r)Money's Secret Sauce – "Enthusiasm."
Oh, puleeze! Two hours alone with you would kill that poor kid deader than a wedge.
Barb, can't we try a polygamy thing?
Whoops. Polyandry
Hate to tell you this, but you'd have to grow a penis first, darling.
With votes?
I'd settle for being his adoring Auntie who spoils him rotten.
I *likes* the sound o' that!
It would be a lonely life, Barb! Nate has two Mistresses, Numbers and Dudes.
Man, I am striking out left and right with men lately.
Striking out left and right? You're a switch-hitter?
I have calculated the probability of Nate calling to be less than 5%. On the other hand polling suggest a high probability of contact from Flat Earth if he had your number.
Nate and Barbara,
Sitting in a tree…
…countin' numbers,
one, two, three…
Then comes love;
Then comes an election.
Then comes Nate Silver's great big
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Selection.
[You have a dirty mind!]
Off topic, but I woke up this morning and gay marriage won, legalized weed won, Barry O. won, Elizabeth Warren won…Jesus, how much did I have to drink last night?
Also off topic, woke up this morning thinking, Who has their country back now, motherfuckers?
I woke up this morning feeling slightly hungover even though I didn't drink. I did however, celebrate Colorado style.
Colorado Colitas.
" Celebrate Colorado style" is now my new favorite euphemism for smoking weed
I stepped outside early this morning to smoke a little FREEDOM bowl…
Can't decide:
"Let's get to a Washington state."
"Time to talk about Colorado!"
"Enjoy my recreational freedoms"
"Colorado, anyone?"
If Coors is "Colorado Kool-Ade", what would MJ be? Colorado Coriander?
I think that this election more than 2008 signals that "change has come to America".
When I went outside to grab the paper, I found an Obama phone, food stamps and a nuva ring rolled up inside. Life is good.
Unfortunately I think gridlock still has the country….maybe I'll just get high.
Tyler, TX, where my aunt lives, voted yesterday to finally allow retail sales of beer and wine (but not spirits…yet), and the asshole Baptist minister who led the opposition says in the paper that he's preparing to file a lawsuit because "I want my city back." That phrase always was meaningless, but now it's even more so.
Hopefully Drudge Lite will soon fade to history's dustbin. Nate rulez!
To be fair to the pundits, Nate Silver probably could not toss a word salad nearly as garbledly as Mooselini. Failure like that takes a certain weird skill.
Also not as good with the fancy pageant walkin', and such.
We need to get new pundits, with the exception of Rachel Maddow. All the rest of those bubble headed twits couldn't out math a 4th grader.
Slate's Pundit Scorecard.
Looks like the Dems won there also.
In the prediction business, it helps to try to see the world as it is, not as you hoped it would be.
Yah, that whole "reality" thing is a bitch…
What, fact-check before you open your mouth? That's just so old school.
It's interesting, but the job of every red dart on that graphic was not to render an accurate prediction, but to inflate Republican voter turnout. So it's a no-brainer that they were "wrong."
Interesting that the Democrats were trying to scare their voters to the polls with how Obama was losing, while Rethugs were trying to make it seem like their voters would be on a winning team…
They don't want to play if they don't think they're going to automagically win.
I just like the fact that they got the pictures all screwed up for Gingrich, Rove and Douthat.
At least most of the blue darts hit the dartboard. Dick Morris just made himself an even bigger laughingstock – if that's possible. Anyone see what ol' Morning Joe Douchebag had to say today?
Yes – what a bundle of excuses. "This isn't your father's America anymore" is one of the lines.
Then he said he didn't see that 2012 was going to be the same turnout as 2008. He thought we would revert to 2000 or 2004. But then he said 2012 was unique.
Well, if it was unique, how could it be a repeat of 2008?
I think I saw the clip on Media Matters for America. A remarkably smarmy performance. Perhaps we won't have Dick Morris to kick around any more…
this is a thing of beauty.
Math and Science have a Liberal bias
Yes they do, since cogent thought is needed to work with either successfully.
Nate, please redistribute all those 'service jobs' you've accumulated.
-Your #1 fan
I think you can only claim "#1 Fan" status if you like sexted him or something!
Now the pundits will begin telling us why we voted the way we did and what Barry needs to do in his next 4 years. What useless dolts.
If you're a republican pundit, this clobbering means that the president must move to the middle and kiss the GOP's ass in order to get anything done in the next four years.
I've already heard that drivel.
That is exactly what Donny Douche or whatever his name is was saying on Morning Blowhard as I ran out the door this morning.
"He never went barhopping with the Speaker or invited Paul Ryan to dinner".
WTF would he? Two gasbags who obviously are about as much fun as a case of hemorrhoids. Or is it two hemorrhoids who obviously are about as much fun as a case of gasbags? Either way, ewwww.
Well, all those red pundits are saying already how his non-mandate should be conciliatory and how he had better come begging, hat in hand, to Boner and the Turtle….
I love that Mitch McConnell is telling Obama to move to the center, when Barry won his race and the Senate stayed in Democratic hands in what was supposed to be a prime opportunity for the Reeps to flip it.
Yeah, what Nelson Muntz said…
"Math is like AstroLube. To be denied at all costs."
The MSM.
Can't comment. Busy planning my gay wedding with pot laced wedding cake.
No surprise that in our neighborhood things did get a bit festive last night . Hurray on marriage for all, hurray on legalizing marijuana, and hurray on re-electing Obama!!!
And no one will have to run to the abortionplex before January either.
Can heteros get gay married? I mean, if we have a a gay sponsor or something, does the club have a hetero auxiliary branch? Cause me and my intended would totally dig on a legally pot-laced wedding cake!
Oh yes, pot laced baked goods for all!
Wait. How have I not opened a bakery already?
You want hard math? GQ got their hands on Mitt's real speech:
We even got Oregon, which was a pleasant surprise. All of this was cited in a study conducted by the Association of Families and Values back in 2004. This is hard evidence, Mr. President.
Thanks Josh. Say what's the over/ under of scoring some sweet, sweet video-capture of Governor Christie blubbering into his hankie while listening to "his President's" victory speech?
I know it's a lot to hope for, I am still in *wishful thinking* mode until last night's reality sets in.
Somebody might trade you for some more underwear pics!
haha — you bet your britches they might!
"A Close but Decisive Victory?" What in the hell does that even mean?
That bugged the shit out of me too. Uhhhh how does winning basically all of the swing states constitute as *narrow*?
Somewhere in between a landslide and a recount.
Let's look at what this election means:
* The Affordable Care Act will go forward. Insurance companies won't be able to policy-rape the old, the sick, and the poor.
* Medicare and Medicaid will not be turned into a voucher system.
* Social Security will not be privatized.
* Roe v. Wade will not be challenged, at least this term.
* The Supreme Court will not be packed with clones of Scalia and Roberts.
* Regulation of Wall Street will not be reversed.
* Regulation of industrial polluters will not be reversed.
* Big Bird won't have his nest foreclosed on.
* We won't be getting into war with Iran.
* FAIL: The .01% increasing its rapery of the 99%.
* FAIL: The GOP stratagery of being the party of angry white men.
* FAIL: Candidates who base their campaigns on lies, lies, and more lies.
I'm pretty sure this: "The GOP stratagery of being the party of angry white men. " Will go on… and to illustrate, John McCain was yelling at people to "get off his lawn" last night again.
Of course it will continue. However — sorry, I forget the source — every election cycle, the white voting population goes down by 1%, and the Hispanic voting population goes up by 1%. Demographic trendline FAIL, Rethuglicans.
That would require them doing the math. When the numbery science questions what they know in their knower they simply get out their hatchet and dispatch that which offends and their domain shrinks bit by bit. They're sorta like the poor polar bears on the ever diminishing pack ice, but the shrinking icebergs aren't the fault of those honky polar bears.
Thank you, that kind of gets me out of some of my gloom about 4 more years of House-supplied gridlock.
Here's something else to degloomify you: We will never again hear "Americans sent a clear message with the 2010 elections." In fact….
We will have another chance in 2014 to take back the House. Keep on believing.
* FAIL: The pro-rape agenda. Who would have thought that being pro-rape would be a bad political strategy? Guess you just can't count on the rapists to come through on election day.
* Jan Brewer's headless corpse will be found somewhere in the Sonoran desert.
* Mitch McConnell will be shipped off to the Galapagos Islands to join the rest of his family.
* Shares in bourbon distributors, Visine, and facial tissue will soar on news that John Boehner refuses once again to work with "that one."
* Mitt Romney announces that he is running for president of the Cayman Islands.
Copy and pasties *.* xoxo
mem judging from the content and quality of your comments this AM, you were not as badly behaved as i was last PM.
NERDS WIN! YAY!
Did you ever hear of a recent election where it didn't matter WTF FLORIDA did?
1864?
There should be a suicide watch put on the entirety of The Villages.
Eh, on second thought, let em go ahead. We already killed em. WITH VOTES!!!!!
well '08 if memory serves.
I see Florida counting votes slowly…..one by one….and looking at us out of the corner of her eye to see if we're still paying attention….
Sour grapes are already: "Obama's big win does not mean Nate Silver is a towering electoral genious." Oh. Really? Why is that?
Mwah? linky?
What ZC said–I am dying to see this!
Meh. It's just a somewhat pouty Salon article on how Nate called everything exactly right, and how anyone can do the same thing, by carefully analyzing and quantifying state polls.
But all these stats triumphalists have it wrong. Nate Silver didn't nail it; the pollsters did.
Yes, Slate, I think that's rather the point: pundits are completely useless, and it's not about magic or gut feelings or momentum or whatthefuckever else. It's about having eyes and a brain.
With this data set, I predict that Nate Silver has a 95.7% chance of getting at least one offer of sexual favors from a Wonkette commentator.
See Barb's posts above!
Revised upwards to 100%.
At least.
Oh, Lucid, you've already offered, haven't you?….
OT: Of all the bad-to-neutral news here in local Michigan races, last night, I was pleased to see that the Dems picked up two seat son the State Board of Education, leaving only 2 Republicans out of 8 seats on the board. Looks like we won't be having any debates on evolution and textbooks anytime soon, thank the FSM.
Yeah, nerds did well, last night.
Well the EM crap went down the toilet anyway….but we've still got that idiot Beneshek, so ….hm….anyway, we get to build the bridge, which should bring us some income….
I know, right? Total mixed bag. The Supreme Court divide stayed the same, though, the woman we did get on the court is a rising star. We narrowed the our deficit in the State House. But, we loss all the possible pick-ups, so our congressional delegation divide is the same…well, one down for the Dems since redistricting combined two of our seats.
But, yeah, that bridge is thousands of good-paying union jobs, so Matty Moroun can eat it. Fucker wasted tens-of-millions of dollars on two proposals that failed spectacularly.
Can he write that off, tax-wise? 'Cause I for one would like it to bite him in the wallet hard….
I'd like for that judge to stick him back in that cell.
That nutcase, Wu, running for the Kansas BoE also got his fanny paddled and Indiana's Superintendent of Education is now a Democrat and former (union) school teacher…
Nice!
Look for Ruth Bader Ginsburg to give her notice. Confirmation of her replacement will take about a year. During which time Scalia, et.al. continue to give away the country.
That poor desperately ill lady is a hero for hanging on this long.
Amen, amen, amen. A heroine and a patriot.
She's a peach. Whoever we get in her seat won't be quite the same. I am having a John Paul Stevens type of sad, contemplating this.
We should carry a banana peel at all times, in case we spot Scalia on a stairway somewhere.
Considering Thomas is halfway up Scalia's ass, this is a true "two birds one stone" strategy.
Just what I was thinking. It'd be a real shame if he were to have an accident or sumptin' like that.
Don't forget–'with votes'.
Hmm. Science and reason prevails over superstitious belief. This political trend trumps all others.
Local paper's Headline:
"Obama reaches out to a divided nation"
Not "Obama wins re-election."
Arsehats. You know that if Romney had won, that would have been in block letters.
Nate owned the hell out of the doubters. Unskewed polls? natesilverwrong.com? The math geneeeeiouseses on free republic? Half the damn pundits on TV? All completely and brutally raped to death by polls and statistics and votes.
Gives me a warm feeling inside. Can't say I ever really lost the faith, but it was a little nervy there for a while.
Seeing John King have to publicly wipe the jizz from his face last night was PERFECT.
(Goes to http://natesilverwrong.com)
"This website is temporarily unavailable, please try again later."
https://twitter.com/NateSilverwrong
"Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!"
Awww, poor conservative gloaters :(
Mirror available here.
And here.
Fukui's Back! Fukui's Back! Fukui's back!
This is way better than than some overwrought political news.
Why did you put a Lincoln-era Civil War map there?
I am tweeting and telling my Rightard Friends that I'm not gloating. I love our Country as much as they do and we have a long way to go to be the Country we need to be. I also tell them I know how they feel, since I suffered through eight long years with the idiot child Dubya in the White House.
I'm telling mine that they got a dose of reality last night that they can choose to ignore and continue to listen to right wing crap. or reflect upon the numerous errors of their ways.
But that would require insight…..Prolly ain't gonna happen.
I probably just got 'unfriended' by a couple of people, due to my measures responses to their histrionics this morning. Oh well, they can go wait for the apocalypse in their Jesus shrines, I'm tired of being pleasant to these people out of some libtard sense of civility.
I only try to be civil (to most, not all of them) in the (probably vain) hope that only be interacting can I hope to get past the reptilian part of their brain and actually spark rational thought.
I hear you! :-)
that is very gentlemany of you tommy.
i made only one slightly political (foul mouthed) comment on FB last night. i never post on FB, much less post politically.
i save that for the wonks…
FB is a labor of love. Why on earth would anyone think I give a fuck what someone else is eating or who they're fucking- and the KIDS! Give me a break!I'm not trying to be gentlemanly, just trying to raise the level of discourse above the grade school playground. Between you andMe: fuggem!Sent from the Field, not in Garrison.
Headline in Seattle: "Vote puts state to the left of the Netherlands on majijuana law"
Seattle already has a million "coffee shops" maybe they can just add another line of "refreshments" to go with the scones they're already selling. Yes we cannabis – yes we DID!! Me likey!!
now they're called "stones"
And all over America, nerdy geeky numbers guys have a new goal: become Nate Silver's wingman and take the hot, brainy leftovers.
Hey Hannity: Where's your messiah nowwwww?
I was gonna ask Sheer InSannity how his gut felt this morning.
But, ya know, I really don't want to hear the answer. He and Dick Morris and Stuart Smarmy and Off-the-Mark Levin and Karl Rover (who kind of lost it on the FoxPAC last night, which was pretty cool) can go attend their Pity Party.
Mark Levin: America's Weasel
So happy this shit is over. My 'check liver' light has been blinking non stop.
Saw that Ann looked teary last night at Mitt's concession speech. She may need a couple new ponies to cheer her up.
You think Egg looked teary? Did you check out Fake News?….
At least she didn't go full Santorum.
i know the story is that egg – well 'egged' mitt on to the race but i just can't believe she really wanted it. it's so very alien to what her nature appears to be: not social, not political, not empathetic.
hell, our lady michelle didn't want it and she's much more suited to it.
Now if only fucking Scalia would retire or get a giant tumor in his dangly bits or fall in a well or something. With votes! Oh wait, he doesn't need votes. . .
Time Out: Um, Editrix? Sorry to bother you this early in the morning, but I have a question. How do we wish harm on those in lifetime appointed positions without breaking the rules?
Try hoping that such people feel the need to retire, to spend more time with their families. Wish them lots and lots of time, with their families. Yeah, that's the ticket.
I hope Scalia has tons of time to spend with his grandparents.
Well done! And with neither arsenic or votes.
Lovely. Bravo!
Agreed wholeheartedly.
Remember in 2004, when the country roughly split but re-elected an embattled president? And then the side that lost was told, after the election, to "get over it?"
This feels a little like that. Only reversed.
This feels a little like that. Only better.
This feels kind of like that except for the 332 to 209 electoral college victory.
So, looks like the Tea Party hit it's ceiling, huh? I wonder if they are going to keep running them in Senate seats? If only for our own chances, I hope so, but I really don't know how many more of those type races I can take. It also looks like every once in awhile one of them finds their way into the Senate. I mean, it's a damned shame Deb Fischer beat Bob Kerrey. I saw the debate between the two, and it wasn't even close. It was like watching a slightly-more reserved Sharron Angle debate a slightly-more folksy John Kerry.
BTW, if you'd have told me we'd win a Senate seat in North Dakota and lose one in Nevada, two days ago, I'd have laughed in your face. Weird.
A visit to Redstate will further schaden your freude. They're saying — predictably — that the reason the Rethuglicans lost was they weren't conservative enough. Actual quote: …how could we possibly be more moderate than we already are?
"Akin and Mourdock blew it with career-killing gaffes, not with ideology"
Apparently, actually talking about the republican platform is now considered a gaffe.
This is grrreat! Not getting it at all is a perfect way to become less and less consequential as the future ascends….thanks, Redstate!…
i heard some wingtard freak on bbc saying rove was going to 'come back' from his huge embarrassment last night by resurrecting the baggers based on what will surely be untapped anger at bamz' second term.
looking at the senate (and 2010 senate results) i say: go for it karl.
well the Onion has beat them to it: "Shreiking White Hot Sphere of Pure Rage Is Early GOP Front-Runner for 2016" http://www.theonion.com/video/after-obama-victory…
God bless the Onion.
Those conservative infidel pundits should prostate to Nate Silver (peace be upon him) asking for clemency for their blasphemy.
But what about Rafalca? Who will think of Rafalca?
Glue factory.
No, on the way to the France to become the new blue meat.
THE OTHER OTHER WHITE MEAT LIBEL.
Oh, I am thinking of Rafalca.
Seamus?
If Nate Silver didn't get laid last night, then there is no justice in this world. Also, I think he should go around to every cable news network and just walk on-set, throw out a "Suck it!" crotchchop, and drop the mic.
I am laughing my ass off–thank you for that awesome visual.
Slightly loony Democratic ex-congress-critter Bob Filner will be our new mayor* in San Diego. Doug Manchester, the homophobic jackass who bought the sole remaining newspaper to prevent just this eventuality can now go home and masturbate angrily.
All hail Barry, Elizabeth and (saints preserve us) Jerry Brown's Prop 30, in which Californians voted to increase their own taxes to pay for schools'n'shit, reversing the long ugly trend begun by Prop 13.
________
*His opponent was a gay Republican government contractor. Curiouser and curiouser.
Nice to hear that Prop 30 news. California is no longer a "Failed State"?
During the Chimpy era we were afraid of an invasion.
Filner had THE creepiest congressional headshot I've ever seen. Glad you guys got a Democratic mayor, though. San Diego seems pretty swingy.
Thank God 30 passed and 32 went down in flames.
Eat me Rove and the Koch brothers!
(You could have built a hospital wing or university or…)
And those Mungers, however well-intentioned, who are still members of the über-wealthy class which believes everything must be for sale.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well done, America's finest city!!!
Shit, now I want to drive down there to see his inauguration.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love how Florida looks like a banana republic, still counting votes (or suppressing them, or whatever) when the rest of the country was finished last night.
Don't bother, Florida, nobody cares.
We've got an image to uphold.
Country sticks collective tongue out at Rick Scott.
People in Florida care because it's an indictment against Governor Skeletor as well as all the ALEC ballot amendments that FAILED.
Hear hear!
Trejo!!!
What he said.
Ideally, Pink-slip Rick is nervously listening for the sound of tumbrels in the streets as I type…
She :)
Aw, my bad, mam. Sorry!
I loved how those old white people had to go to bed at midnight and just left off counting, 'cause it would still be a pile of shit there in the morning….
Take it easy on us, we rejected all the crazy abortion and tax related ballot measures which would've made us worse than Mississippi. I guess I'm just happy to see us remain the moderate yet very corrupt state that we've always been.
or suppressing them, or whatever
I am *so* glad those assholes in Ohio who tried it did not get away with it. Reason enough for the Sunshine State to insist on counting the fucking votes whether they'll determine the outcome or not.
Nate silver should never have to buy a drink again. Dick Morris and his brethren should be forced to cleanup highway shoulders as penance for terrifying all the nice Liberals of our country.
I don't think anyone on the left took Morris' predictions seriously. His penance should be for being a festering boil on the great ass of the USA.
One of the nice things in Minnesota beyond knocking out the marriage and vote suppression amendments hard with the brilliant "Minnesota Nice: Vote No Twice" appeal is that the Republicans who engineered these crap amendments did so to get out the vote. They got their asses handed to them, lost another Congressional seat (briefly held) and turned the legislature back over to the grownups.
Also, scared the pants off One-L.
"scared the pants off One-L. "
Please… No…
Jesus. by all means, scare the pants back on her. That's not an image I need right now…
And how about Miche1e? Did she get dumped?
No, sadly. Scraped through.
Setting up her 2014 retirement by defeat, in either a primary or the General election.
Also, Bachmann's mentor Allen Quist took a pounding in his Congressional bid: http://www.bluestemprairie.com/bluestemprairie/20…
Time to start thinking about the second term — Chris Christie for FEMA anybody? Get a Democrat for NJ governor and they can build a goddamn tunnel!
I like the Chris Christie/Bill Crist combo.
With the onion rings.
The only downside is that I hafta go beg for latte and arugula money because I sent all of mine to Obama's campaign. It's going to be a pretty lean month without my sweet elite expresso, but it was worth it.
Yeah, my credit card bill is a little higher than it should be due to giving to Obama, DSCC, Sandy relief, gay marriage amendment fights, etc. But it was worth it; it helped calm me when I was freaking out .
Ah the schadenfreude. So sweet, so sweet.
Schadenfreude tastes so sweet in the morning.
Schadenfreude is a dish best served warm.
Nate Silver.
Is that your porn name?
Cool.
God hates Republicans- amirite?
Well, based on the numbers…
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LMAO…
The triumph of science and reason over pundit spin and hackery. Thank you, Nate!
Over brute force and cynicism. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9P4SxtphJ4
I *love* that.
Craig rocks.
So wait gay math is still math?
Just prettier and wittier…
The computer will always be better than Dick Morris's map.Fox News should pull his contract for making them look even dumber than usual.
Saying that Dick Morris should be "fired" is like saying, "Is a duck's ass water tight?"
Big fan RM you should check on Roger,I think he may have hung himself after carving Brooks/Roger was here on a beam in his parents basement.WeeTodd will be decimated.After peeing on Rogers grave.They were such a cute couple.
Hahaha, that's my favorite movie. I will check on him. Both of us being writers, we correspond off the ID system through email regularly. I also, know WeeTodd, Eyes_Open and several others too. Whereas, I am a Right Wing Nut Job Conservative Christian, I am at least practical. I get along with just about everyone. I have a few favorites of course, I love to tease Eileen4Freedom and now I have a new girl friend on your side named Susan. Neither one of them enjoys my off the wall sense of humor. Both report me pretty regularly. One of the administrators let me know that even though I was very funny they couldn’t continue to have “Tricky Ricky” on the loose any more. I think it was my “Mini-Me Roger” that did me in. Won’t being doing that again.
Rogers is a writer? The man is an imbecile! What dose he write ad copy for the local paper?
Couple? Just because that stuid fuck stalks me does not mean we are a couple. He's a creep. Why will I be decimated?
It was a joke Wee ,aimed more at Roger,and his obvious man crush on you.Why do you think he stalks you?It's sad, but you are the closes thing he has to a relationship.Creepy,but true.The decimated part? what would you do for entertainment if you did not have that imbecile to make look stupid?What you don't understand is that Conservatards wrap themselves up in hate without it they are nothing.They are blinded by it,and like a snake trying to eat it's tail it will consume them.They are sad,ignorant,racist,sexist,and intolerant of others;that is why they fail.That is why the majority of America rejects they're party,and they're canidate.Red State people in general just are not that smart.The Christian bible,and it's ridiculous violent teachings make them that way.They are lost in this New America,and scared.Hate is the path to the dark side,and they travel to ruin.
You should get a giggle out of this string.
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/daniel-flynn/why-rom…
That was entertaining RM.Like I'v said before a big fan of yours as well as Wee,Coggy,Patriothere,cwoof,and others merely trying to comprehend the Coservative mind set that seems to me so vile,and full of hate,racism,sexism,intolerance,and though they claim to be Christians most of the comments from roger,and many others on conservative blogs prove otherwise.With you,and very few others being the exception.To many your people come off as the party of greed,heartlessness,selfishness,and the party of the rich.For the rich,and by the rich.For anyone who seriously follows the teachings of Christ,and I quote"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.",or "what ever you do for the least of thee amongst you;you do unto me."Those are not Republican values.As you may be aware I am not a christian,but those are good words.I choose to live in an America where people care about equality,and do what is right for all people not just the privileged few,or the white/christian ruling class.PS I am white,but when asked what race I am? I answer Human.
I like you sir. And yes those are very good words, that I follow very strictly. I turn no one away, even the Muslims who need something from me.
My economic views align on the conservative side, however, you might find it interesting that I do not wish people to remain poor and dependant on others for their support. My choice is to provide them all jobs and not hand outs. I have been working since I was ten years old. I bought my own first car by mowing lawns. I put myself through college, two degrees, by mowing lawns and working part time as a draftsman/illustrator. I am living proof of what can do done by people who have the desire to make a better life for themselves.
I really am not all that upset with the outcome of the election. I know this, God makes the leaders of men what they are. I might not like it sometimes, but I live with it and accept it.
Hey RM,did you ever check on Roger,or are you going to wait until the neighbors start to complain about the smell?
Yes, and I have not heard back from him yet. Even WeeTodd is concerned.
So let me try to understand you are against personel welfare that helps people yet align yourself with a party that champions corparate welfare with huge tax breaks for companies like Exxon that made $31 billion in profits last year alone?To huge farm sindicates with subsidity money where they get paid not to grow food Like Monsanto? would rather tax the poor,and middle class rather than require GE,and many others corparations to pay they're taxes?This is not what your Jesus would choose.Infact if he came back today with his pro poor,socalist teaching of his past would you deny him because like Democrates he has compasion for poor?
Well it is getting cold outside. That will keep the smell down
Today we are all socialist Muslim Kenyans.
*Atheist socialist Muslim Kenyan Communists.
Gay blah atheist socialist Muslim Kenyan Communist.
/fixed
Atheist muslim radical-christian socialist Kenyan communists.
I wonder if this will indicate a return to stressing math and science in schools like it was in the 1960's when I was an itty bitty kid. And that was at a Catholic grade school.
The horrifying truth: http://isnatesilverawitch.com/
Where's O'Donnell when you need her?
that's delightful
Love it!
I'm already tired of the narrative. The Beltway narrative is that since the GOP kept the House, that this means the president should come around and do another Simpons-Bowles-esque austerity measure. You know, 'cause "bipartisanship."
Puh-leeze. I hope to see him put his boot up Congress' ass. It's time to steamroll those intransigent bastards. He needs to remind him that his head is going on Rushmore, and they can either get a piece of being a part of the history that is his two-term administration, or that we will obliterate them in the 2014-midterms.
The sheriff is near…and he's back in town.
We're going to obliterate them in the midterms anyway.
**Shhhh** If we say that out loud, then we can't threaten them with it.
We've got to get back to the War on Coal.
We tried the bipartisanship thing, and the wingtards were all "Obama's not fixing anything," and that cost him votes.
Steamroller time.
i think that's what he was saying last night – without being all bush assholey 'i won political capitol'.
No more bi-partisanship. Those losers had their chance and acted like dicks every step of the way. Bronco's got nothing to lose now.
Nate Silver as Gene Wilder, I'd hope.
Math and solid methodology won out over froth based science? Whoda thunk it?
Next thing you know, breweries will be hiring microbiologists!
Just noticed another tidbit: Mia Love, the black female teabagger republican running in Utah, has lost her race to the democratic incumbent, Matheson.
At my election party, I was the calm and collected one, while everyone else had panic attacks ("Romney's leading 13 to Obam's 2 EVs!!!, OMFG!!") . I had Nate's big board on my mac book. As the numbers came in, they just jived with expected and tossup predictions. Stay thirsty my friends.
Me too. Thanks, Nate.
Except no party.
Just me and a Manhattan.
I knew Barry had this, but was more interested to see what would happen with my girl, Elizabeth Warren and my secret crush, Sherrod Brown.
(What a bonus to see that idiot, Allen West lose!)
Oh I was so happy to see the squared headed West get booted out.
In the battle of the nerd math, Nate Silver brought the hammer down on Karl Rove's "math."
The same people who want to vilify craftsmen of statistical logic-driven indicators like Silver are the ones who cry Foul and react with the same when confronted with Reality.
My point is I'm flummoxed by the consistent denial exhibited by more than a few friends IRL who resolutely push aside any of the evidence-supported assertions made by stats wiz's like Nate — or, similarly: the rate of accuracy these perps eagerly hold in contempt for, you guessed it, our local meteorologists on the teevee.
THe right-tard in particular I'm thinking of never wastes an opportunity to call out our weather reporters, whenever a forecast goes slightly (or caught-by-surprisingly) off-track as the day/ evening's elements manifest themselves. People like this take it *personally* that the art of prediction doesn't conform precisely in outcome to the projections by some top-notch analysts who are nonetheless offering an assessment, not a foregone conclusion. I've spent enough time in social circles hearing these and other creeps scapegoating practicers of this niche science to not be overall surprised at those waxing skeptical at Silver.
(Hugs Mumbletypeg)
Group hug!
I work with people like that. Drives me nuts "it's going to rain at 3:30". I tell them to stop doing that to no avail. Then they bust on the forecasters when it doesn't in fact, rain at precisely 3:30. But then I am kind of a nerd.
I'm watching Sully on Colbert from last night: "There's a black man in power and he's got nothing to lose."
"Cut 'im"
Some of them are starting to sound like bit-players from "Blazing Saddles"…
Is there any hope–any hope at all–that the neocons will finally face reality and try getting something done for a change? We've still got that whole "fiscal cliff" thing coming up (and before Joe Walsh goes home, too).
The 'wingers started ignoring reality some time back. The moderates *may* see the hand-writing on the wall and *may* come around. Ideally, they'll regain control of the GOP…
God, I depended daily, sometimes twice daily on Nate over the last six months – he was the only one keeping me from feeling the Wonkette World had become Fort Alamo…..
True dat.
Twice? I admire your restraint–I got to double digits in the last week of the election. I hope Nate gets a nice vacation in, and a huge bonus check as well…
"Math class is tough!" – 1991 Barbie
Thank god, now Nate can get back to his real job of predicting the World Series.
Giants Win! Giants Win! Giants Win!
Now can we jump off the Fiscal Cliff® so the Bush tax cuts can die their well-deserved death, defense spending is slashed, and government revenues roll in?
The liberals got together and we decided we going to go for "2,000 Years of Darkness".
On the other hand, if only computers and machines would have voted, Romney might have won.
Could one of you be kind enough to bring me a bottle of aspirin and an American flag?
Feeling a bit fragile this morning? I hear ya…
NATE SILVER IS A PIMP
Word
I, for one, welcome our new polling overlords.
Some jackass just said "welcome to the USSA" to me. They're taking it so well.
Well, grace and good sportsmanship have always been their calling cards.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA! (Sorry, after last night, I can't help it)
Provide a cool smile in return. Remember the dish is best served cold.
Oh yes weej, that is ttommy's old advise. It infuriates them even more.
The douchebag on RW radio here, Chris Plant, is playing Soviet Marches…
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
i hope you responded "this is so comrade, the gulag for incorrect thinking is open and you are the first to be purged."
this is bad news for Mentat Piter DeBrees.
THE SPICE MUST FLOW!!!! NATE SILVER IS THE KWISATZ HADERACH!!!!!!11!1!!11!!!1
Also Baron Harkonnen.
Thufir Hawat FTW!
It is by Nate alone I set my mind in motion…
Maud dib!
Rhode "Little Rhody" Island is sending an Italian Jewish gay man to Congress. That's the Democratic version of hybrid vigor.
In advance of the election return, there was a reassuring facebook circulating the facebooks, from a former member of Nate's old baseball sabermetrics league. The guy said that he ended up ragequitting said league, because Nate was SO GOOD at it and so obsessed with getting the numbers right that it stopped being stopped being fun to always get beaten by Nate Silver.
I only hope that our political pundits will take heed, and follow that guy's lead.
Just for fun: Front pages across the country:
http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/default.a…
So far, my favorite headline is from the Oakland (Ca.) Tribune:
OBAMA ROLLS
Oh yeah!
So, does this mean the Mayans were right?
The Mayans are dead.
The Right is dead.
Therefore, the Mayans are right.
Bamz, you've been handed a clear mandate. Now, *USE* it, dammit!!!
According to Boehner, the republican house is the one with the mandate. Or did he say man date?
No lie – I was dreaming about cannabis being legal in Washington state, where I live, when I suddenly woke up and looked at the clock – it was 4:20!
So, did you celebrate Colorado style?
Here's hoping the Bams will lay off the DEA
My youngest was born on 4/20/90.
She always gets a lot of "heh-heh, what a cool birthday" comments.
Clear eyes, full hearts, WE WON.
Bitches.
Yesterday my wife got a call from the county Democratic Party to give a ride to the polls to a voter. It turned out to be an 84-year old woman — a white one! — who had never voted before.
This morning, Florida is still waiting to fulfill Nate Silver's prophesy. Our county, though, went 75% for Romney. The fifty-point margin was one vote smaller than it would have been, though. Thanks, honey.
My gay, Deaf, 50 year old friend voted for the first time in her life yesterday.
Thank you, thank your wife. Profusely. There really is no such thing as "my vote doesn't matter", even if you are in the reddest/bluest area there is.
The talk in the office is that Barry spent too much money on campaigning when we have massive debt…..because Mittens didn't spend a dime.
Dang. They ARE grasping at straws…
Derp?
Need to get Nate Silver to go the track with me. I'll spring for the beer.
Marry me Nate Silver!
Conservative women are pissed that the war on women stuff worked. Why did you have to vote with your pussies, ladies?
It wasn't easy holding the pen with my labia, I tells ya..
I just went to the Florida site to see if anything was moving with the numbers, and found something surprising: the statewide turnout was 70%, and a couple of counties broke 80%! Those are almost Soviet-bloc numbers.
It truly was a MUCH greater voter-turnout than expected. The unexpected volume is one thing that's slowing up the count…
My kids live down there. I've been up their ass for weeks to vote. I'm so proud.
It's a great day in Amurica! Where being a geek can be hawt!
I, for one, welcome our new mathematical overlord.
If I were Nate Silver, I would think about selling my endorsement of stuff. I would start with drill bits, plum lines and laser beams.
Politics is not that hard. Arithmetic baby, arithmetic.
Either Nate Silver or Arithmetic should be Time person of year.
Oh ye bitters always denying facts things that actually happened. why do you hate math and the truth so much?
Oh Jesus. I just saw that Roy Moore got elected again to his old job as Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court. There's no telling how many commandments he'll have this time.
Happily, Linda McMahon lost resoundingly, yay liebral Connecticut. I may hate most of the down county corporate turds who live here, hate the traffic, hate the cost of living…but at least we're not overrun with the stupidz.
I am very pleased with this result!
(Even though I got a lecture from my P.C. daughter when I called Linda a bitch.)
$100 Million dollars and two failed campaigns later, one wonders if Linda will take the damn hint. Why not run for Mayor of Stamford or something, if she really wants to be in politics?
Has Ron Paul pulled out the surprise win yet?
No, and neither has Lou Sarah!
What's Nate's take on Justice Scalia's cholesterol count?
He would have to aggregate all pompous, high-self-regarding blowhards on a Mediterranean diet to give you a prognostication.
I enjoy Nate's reviews of Polls. I also like the take the PEC does. With both those things in mind, I think we are way to obsessed with the polls. I think we should leave poll analysis to the Nate Silvers of the world, and leave issue analysis to passionate people on both sides. These passionate people would replace partisan hacks, also known as pun dents.
Shorter: If republicans spent their media energy talking about issues in an honest way, they might have only lost a little.
At least we still have Michele Bachmann.
Well, at least she only juuuuuuuuuuuuust squeaked by. That'll put the fear of God in her. Next time she might not be so lucky! I bet Marcus is still lightheaded.
That fucking Nate Silver….who does he think he is after all…..Actually Nate, we all love ya. Helped us keep the faith – now don't let it go to your head.
Listen up, fellow cheaters! Fox News still wants you to report on any voter fraud thingies that you might know about or that you might have done. Report these wrongdoings to http://www.suckonitlosers.com
Do they have a hotline? I'll call Megyn Kelly on my free Obama phone.
OT Rough commute this morning. All the white guys in Rams and Tahoes were driving like fucking maniacs.
with all this foreseeing and whatnot this Silver fellow is playing a Demon's game….the origins of which are rooted in the dark spirituals of atheism and devil worships…
did you see this gem that somebody here posted (or possibly created):
http://isnatesilverawitch.com/
genius
Congratulations Nate for retrieving the signal from all that noise.
Here's what I posted about two years ago. I am no Nate Silver, but I did call the R primary and the prez election in advance.
"Forget it, Mittens is already your 2012 nominee. It's his turn, and none of these other guys have a national organization (teabaggers are the lack of an organization). Dubya's run was set up WAY earlier than two years out.
Obama over Mittens, 52-48, and the Dems take the House back."
Oh . my .god. Nate Silver is a Time Lord.
Let's do the Time Lord again! (it's just a poll to the left….)
Does that mean we can now exclude Ramussen and their random number generators from all poll analytics forward on?
I'm glad Nate Silver uses his mystical and awesum powers for Good and not for Evil.
is $arah Palin eating again now?
Only her children, I think. Some animals do, you know.
I can't even raise any snark about it, this is how much I love Nate Silver. REAL Math versus "the math" won unequivocally, with no bias (except that pesky liberal bias in all the polls).
Nigh on four years ago, Wonkette steered me to Nate Silver and I've been a devoted follower ever since. Repubtards don't like him because he uses "math" which is a "science" and is not something that is first dreamed by a "wizard". Instead, Repubtards call him "fag" and "gey". Good for Nate Silver and all his recognition. His computer model must be awesome and I'm sure his mom wonders what he does in his room all day…
How's this for attitude? Nate took the day off, leaving his last predictions just laying on the page, like a giant turd in the republican punch bowl.
"You like polls? How 'bout THEM polls! I got the number." *
* Obscure Good Will Hunting reference, starring two hunky Dems.
So Asimov was right about psycohistory all along.
fascinating… but, please, how so?
Chuck Hegel is a respectable Republican, a brave man who stood up to Bush Jr., and I would have voted for Hegel.
Give or take a Brazilian
I believe we won.
Good thing I can drive to Washington now to get my doob on.
Yes, he does young adults books. Right now he is working real hard on one. The arch villian WeeTodd is really busy at work and will be missing in action for a little while, just like Rog. I suspect both the resume the battle very soon. I stay out of it mostly, unless WTE says something totally wrong, then I straighten him out.
I am working on a modern western humor book called "Bull Rider" under this current Nume de Plume, Ricky Michael.
Funny I always thought Roger wrote Gay porn snuff scripts.Good luck with your book hope to see it on the NYT best sellers list.I'll buy it in paperback of course.
Hahaha, no. Barnes and Noble sent me a request to do a real book review for his work. Nearly all the reviews were from ID people who do not like him. I actually read the book and did a real review. You can tell which one was mine.
People may not like him and his tactics, but fair is fair, at least read the work before posting trash. It was not all that bad for a first time writer. His ability with pros dwarfs mine. I am serverely dyslexic and I deal with special things that he does not.
http://s1059.beta.photobucket.com/user/RMichael19…
He does and he sucks at that to
How do you know they did not read that trash?
Alright Todd, have you purchased and read his book?
Ok, I apologize I read the comment the wrong way. Actually if he was gone I would be able to enage in a good discussion. He is good for comic relief and it is fun to make his blood boil. I love pointing out how he fails as a chirstian.
On a side note congrats on Obama getting another term. Not what I wanted to see not that I am a D or R I just wanted someone else to get a shot and that someone else I did not care for either. Anyways as a country we need to stop the fighting and band together as a country and fix OUR nation. Both sides fighting each other over which way is up has only brought us further down the rabbit hole
I did not purchase it. As I have said before the local library was throwing out copies of his trash and I grabbed one and read it. IT SUCKED. It was way too predictable and boring
Ok, since you really did read it, then you earn the right to your negative opinion. You are not the target audience age group for which it was written either. That makes a difference.
So why do you waist your time trying to educate Conservatards?They are hopeless,and never happier than when they have something,or someone to hate.Hate has made them strong with the dark side.There is no redemption for them they are becoming less relevant with each passing day.They offer nothing but a return to a past that was corrupt,and intolerant.They will become fossils on display in a history museum right next to Neanderthals.Good riddance in my book.When a group of sub-humans fails to adapt to changing environmental conditions extinction is imminent.
You have to remember even though you call them "sub-humans" they are still your American brothers. I don't agree with everything they do and I don't agree with everything liberals do. Matter of fact the only thing I can side with Liberals is with their stance on drugs, religions, and the environment.
Gibberish is all it was. He talks about hating predictability then why is his book so predictable?
The sub-human crack was referring to the fact that they act like creatures of hate,an undesirable aspect of modern Republican culture.If they want to be considered my American brothers as you put it,then they should start acting like it; instead of a bunch of Monkeys slinging shit at each other,and everyone else.They use to be the party of fiscal responsibility,and defense before the right wing christian Fun-Dah-mentalist American Taliban hijacked the party.
I like everybody. I'm not worried one bit about anything.
Signed
Rightwingconservativechristianbiblethumpinglibertarian
Ricky MIchael
Yes RM I have read your past comments,and know where you stand on that topic.But as long as the Christian right controls the party there is no room for the now extinct Moderate republican.The separation clause is a good idea for everyone.And your parties radical religious agenda is killing the traditional message of the once respectable GOP.But if you guys want to double down on stupid it should make for an easy win for HILLARY CLINTON 2016 ! She is probably writing her acceptance speech now knowing the GOP could not even score an easy win.
"Christian Right" just a name to call someone.
There are two distinct type types of religious people who are generally lumped all together and called Christians. There are the ones who “say” they are with lips service only and the ones who live it. I try my best to be in the second group, they are the real Christians. I find that those in the first group have hypocrisy as their battle cry. I want no part of that.
Additionally, my religious beliefs have nothing to do with my political views. They never have. I am an exception perhaps.
Whose image is on a denarius, Caesar? Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s. I am not against paying taxes. The problem is that if you believe that taxing the rich, corps included, will solve all our problems then you are doomed to be disappointed. We are now in such sorry shape that even if we just took not only their tax money but all their possessions away too, it would not even scratch the surface of our debt. Additionally, if you believe that the current leadership will leave the little guys like you and I out of the tax increases, you will be disappointed there as well. The tax man cometh, and right quickly.
The answer to the problem is never going to be taxes. It is in promoting the very people you hate, the rich corporations who give jobs and pay checks out. Without them, we die as a nation.
I will change my political allegiance to the liberal side as soon as they begin to promote business and their prosperity. We have to grow our way out. It is a fact that no one has ever taxed themselves into prosperity. This is the truth.
And yet still nearly every time there is a democrat in the white house,and a competent congress the economy by every study ever made, is better than that under the Republican parties leadership.It would seem your logic fails under the light of reality.Jesus was a liberal your God claims he likes liberals,and that he will make them fat.(A blessing by Yahweh's standard's)Republicans are bad for America.They are the party of ENRON less government oversight ring a bell?Yes with GOP policies a few people get mega rich,and when the shit hits the fan the American public gets stuck with the bill.The GOP quick personal wealth trumps the public good?Their policies have brought ruin,and disaster in the past.
Here is something that might interest you; the early Christians in the book of Acts lived like Communists. They had all things in common and each was given according as he had need. There are many things the liberal side does that I agree with, but the problem solving comes through strong businesses. Reagan was right. We did well under his leadership. No one in recent history has out done him.
In my Church, no one is over looked. I am a member of the Church of Christ. We help our own and those outside the church too as much as we can. I will have given right around 30% of my take home pay for benevolence this year. Just curious, how much have you given to the poor and those in need this year?
Your preaching at me doesn’t seem to fit does it? I suggest you examine yourself before you attempt to take the itty bitty spec out of my eye.
All with respect of course. Maybe you have given more than 30%, you tell me.
30% impressive.Even your god only requires 10% sir you are a philanthropist.But as I have said you are an exception to the rule.I myself give nothing to religious institutions for fear that they would use the money to proselytize,and little to aid organizations that promote faith of any kind in their mission other than the Red Cross.You seem like a decent person,yet I still do not understand why you don't understand the Stan Lee Quote from Marvel comics Spiderman"With great power comes great responsibility." Money is power.And what is so wrong about asking those who have benefited the most from America from stepping up to the plate like many rich people are willing to do with the exception of the GOP Grover Norquist pledging puppets of the radical right.The GOP needs to move to the center,ditch the ridiculous christian social issues like abortion,gay rights,and raping the environment.Time to Toss the Cross,and return to governing the people.When it comes down to radical religion the GOP makes the PLO look like one's local PTA.
Yes, I agree, I am an exception to the rule. It matters to me, how I act. I do my best to live like the NT Christians did in the first century. My ideal world would be that everyone who can work does so and no government aid is necessary for anyone. We will be fine, it’s time to work together now. Also, our military boys need to be brought home.
I have heard from Roger, he is fine.
Rogers OK? Well despite that I will try to have a good Sunday.Thanks RM,I may never be able to understand the conservative brain,and where the vile contempt they have for people who choose an America where we are all in this together,and we are our Brothers keeper.Your insight has been helpful,and I have enjoyed getting to know a you better.Keep Wee & Roger in line,as you do,and call them on stupid. Semper Paratus fidelis enduro.
I never been able to understand the conservative or liberal brain. Good joke please don't take offense:
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/jokes/blj…
Well at least liberals evolved,unlike conservatives who are still a bunch of harry apes sitting around a camp fire,worshiping magical bronze age gods,slinging shit at each other ,and every one else.While comparing who's ass is the brightest shade of red.That's how they pick their leaders.
HAHAHAHAHA.
Good one.
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