Are you tired of petty partisanship, of red/blue bickering, of the enthusiastic embrace of blatant falsehoods generated for political gain?
Well you can cross another enemy off the list, because Senate Republicans have finally stood up to the reprehensible grandstanding of … the Library of Congress.
Yes, dear citizens! The library’s reign of terror is over! No more will they plague our government with “reports” of “findings,” especially when their “research” — if you can call it that — dismantles the entire economic ethos of half of the American political spectrum.
The report we speak of this time is one from the Congressional Research Service, a nonpartisan agency that analyzes policy and legal issues for Congress. It was founded in 1914 and employs more than 600 lawyers, scientists, librarians, and economists, all working to help legislators better understand the issues around which they are crafting laws.
You know what that means — they cannot be trusted.
They wrote up a report, see, about how there isn’t any measurable influence on the economy from changing the tax rates of the wealthy. That’s right: They found that increasing taxes on the rich “job creators” doesn’t harm the economy. What a buncha maroons!
And what “evidence” did they use to conclude this, New York Times?
The report received wide notice from media outlets and liberal and conservative policy analysts when it was released on Sept. 14. It examined the historical fluctuations of the top income tax rates and the rates on capital gains since World War II, and concluded that those fluctuations did not appear to affect the nation’s economic growth.
“The reduction in the top tax rates appears to be uncorrelated with saving, investment and productivity growth. The top tax rates appear to have little or no relation to the size of the economic pie,” the report said. “However, the top tax rate reductions appear to be associated with the increasing concentration of income at the top of the income distribution.”
Egad! Who do these economists think they are, using 65 years of data to inform politicians about the consequences of their policies? It’s almost like they want things to be decided using informed reasoning instead of pseudo-patriotic platitudes! It’s almost like… they hate capitalism. And eagles.
Don’t worry though, Republican senators gave ‘em the ol’ what-for:
The Congressional Research Service has withdrawn an economic report that found no correlation between top tax rates and economic growth, a central tenet of conservative economic theory, after Senate Republicans raised concerns about the paper’s findings and wording.
Well, they SHOULD be concerned about the findings, as they make the Republican rhetoric of the past decade or five look kind of ridiculous. But this is America, where we are well beyond economic research or labor statistics or believing people who are paid to research things. Everybody knows anyone who disagrees with Republicans is just a liberal in a labcoat. Plus, “evidence” sounds an awful lot like Sharia law.
So Sen. Mitch McConnell and a few of his pals “raised concerns about the methodology and other flaws,” and he should know, because if there’s anybody qualified to critique the methodologies of congressional research economists, it is a dude who graduated law school 45 years ago and immediately became a politician.
“There were a lot of problems with the report from a real, legitimate economic analysis perspective,” said Antonia Ferrier, a spokeswoman for the Senate Finance Committee’s Republicans. “We relayed them to C.R.S. It was a good discussion. We have a good, constructive relationship with them. Then it was pulled.”
Yes, there’s nothing like a government agency having a “good, constructive relationship” with a bunch of people who got elected by making lists of government agencies they want to blow up. At least everybody’s happy now, right?
A person with knowledge of the deliberations, who requested anonymity, said the Sept. 28 decision to withdraw the report was made against the advice of the research service’s economics division, and that [report author Thomas L.] Hungerford stood by its findings.
Ah, so the economist guy is kind of pissed, but who cares? He’s only the guy who knows what he’s talking about. Clearly he has no place in Congress. [NY Times]




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Math? We don't need your stinking math."
–Mitch McConnell
I thought that was Karl Rove?
No, actually that was the five justices in Bush v Gore.
"My number one political goal is to make Mittens Rmoney a zero term president." — BO
I'll bet that some of the math used included Algebra, and we all know who invented Algebra…
Don't forget the numerals. Damn Sharia law numerals.
You know, I am an economist – unlike turtle boy, and upon first read that report looks pretty damn sound. I'd be super pissed if I were the economics lead on this as well.
The republicans are looking at this the wrong way. Since taxing the rich doesn't improve the economy, there is no reason to tax the rich, ever, right?
I can't believe they pulled that report. What a bunch of fuckin pussies.
Truly. The librarians I know have WAY more guts than that.
(And no, I'm not being snarky – librarians kick ass.) http://librarianavengers.org/worship-2/
You got that right.
But do they have a calendar, that's what I need to know.
(And not that one with men, noooooo!)
…pussies? Politicians? What's the difference?
We're talking Republicans here. Pussies is the last thing they'd ever fuck.
Last I checked, Democrats controlled the Senate. That's the biggest WTF in this whole thing!!!
after Senate Republicans raised concerns about the paper’s findings and wording.
This report is invalid because of Mrs. Crabapple noticing an extra "the" in the appendix, therefore totally invalid. Also, syntax, too. Also.
Since there are Senate Republicans involved, I'm sure there were a couple or many places where semi-colons should have been full colons, also.
The subjunctive clauses were all put in gimp costumes.
Full colons are not necessary for the GOP, just the assholes.
Oh, I dunno, they'd miss their Dirty Sanchezes
Our cup runneth over.
Well, "Senate Republican" and "colon" are pretty much the same thing, aren't they?
Or at least wide stances.
Except, being Senate Republicans, a full colon is quite a bit outside of their weight class.
Not to mention the font SIZE.
"It was a good discussion. We have a good, constructive relationship with them."
Nice library you have there. Be a shame if something bad happened to it…
Unfortunately, I'm 99.7% sure that's exactly what happened.
So there's a chance it didn't happen that way?
First they came for the libraries, but I said nothing because I'm in line waiting for the new i-Pad mini…
I love all things Apple, but I kinda don't get the mini. Why'd you want the smaller screen?
That is not a question you ask a man in public.
This is not actually funny. But then, most of my brain leaked out of my ears about 3 weeks back, so what do I know.
Yeah, but what about the evidence that Reagonomics DOES work? What about that?
Whaddya mean? Just feast your eyes on the greatness of the last 30 years!
Teach the controversy!
As long as the tax money to do the research was spent wisely, I'm cool with Cecil Turtle killing it because it gave him a sadz.
Republicans, it appears,
invest inhave the best research that money can buy…GOPTPs learned economics from candy re-distribution.
But did the researchers test the idea using "turtle maths"? That's what Senator McConnell wants to know.
They were afraid of a stack overflow. As we all know, it's turtles, all the way down.
Well, once you get past the four titanic elephants it is.
Why do you think they call them lie-braries?
Because that's where lie-bruls get their "facts"?
"Lie- brairies" is excellent (one might say "spot on"). Get this woman a job with the right-wing word machine, immediately.
This doesn't have anything to do with trumped up allegations about Benghazi… so move along, nothing to see here.
“There were a lot of problems with the report from a real, legitimate economic analysis perspective,” said Antonia Ferrier, a spokeswoman for the Senate Finance Committee’s Republicans. “We relayed them to C.R.S. It was a good discussion. We have a good, constructive relationship with them. Then it was pulled.”
Translation: "Pull this report or kiss your agency's funding goodbye forever."
I read the fucking report…did Antonia Ferrier…she sounds French.
"That's MY pi!!"
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george?
If you want to imagine the future, picture a wingnut looking at E=mc² & scratching their head – FOREVER.
http://www.conservapedia.com/Relativity
"The media-promoted equation E=mc², implausibly suggests a relationship between typically unrelated concepts of energy, the rest mass of a body and the speed of light. "
The whole article is insane pseudo-scientific ramblings. Oh, and "Other engineers and scientist have written about problems in the basic set of special relativity equations" – yes, engineers and scientists, as if engineers are on the same level as actual scientists. Almost all the "scientists" Conservapedia claims are against relativity, like those pulled out to deny global warming, aren't scientists at all but engineers.
Unfuckingbelievable.
The primary inference appears to be that, being just a theory, relativity suffers from "a lack of evidence", which of course leaves only God.
Again, unfuckingbelievable.
http://www.conservapedia.com/Starlight_problem#Hu…
The conservatards use relativity when they need it, and deny it when they don't. Fucking asswipes don't even try for conisistency.
I'm guessing McConnell mused that he was thinking of putting the new Silverfish and Bookworm Research Institute in the basement of the Library.
OK, so I interviewed for a job at one of the local colleges a few weeks ago (didn't get it, but anyway…).
The interview ended with a walking tour of the campus where the tour guide pointed out the Fine Arts Building, the Computer Science Building, etc.; and one building in particular where they had an animal lab in the basement for mice and bats.
Me: Cool! It's THE BAT CAVE!!
Those 600 "lawyers," "scientists," "librarians," and "economists," need a good schoolin' from almost ghost Billy Graham to know the only research tool they need is the 66 books of blahble. And a binder full of women.
DEWEY WINS! By a decimal point.
Two plus two has always equaled five.
And that's how you know the Randian worship of the Free Market is a religion; when facts contradict the dogma, they reject the facts.
The jobs report caused Ed Schultz to play Bob Dylan and sing loudly over it.
This election is over, dawg.
Was he singing "Everybody must get stoned"?
They were upset about the "tone". Jesus, for a pile of bomb throwing bullies, you assholes have some thin skin.
I thought they were usually more concerned with skin tone.
Son of An Inconvenient Truth. I hate sequels.
“There were a lot of problems with the report from a real, legitimate economic analysis perspective,”
They must not have parroted the University of Chicago tenets, then. Those guys are "economists" in name only. I'd rather have an Economics degree (and I do!) from Florida State.
Well economics is called a "science" and the worst possible kind of science — the social kind.
Isn't the University of Chicago Econ Dept. a subsidiary of the Austrian School of Economics (and Cosmetology).
They've even got a Freidman as their most famous professor. Sort of like the NYT.
Chicago School is the biggest fucking crapfest ever thrown at Americans. It's as legitimate as Ron Paul's Austrian School. Complete crap, and yet we've bought into the bullshit for almost 35 years now.
in defense of my twice over alma mater i must say i never had any austrian.
though of course i majored in shakespeare and early modern europe with a concentration on france and italy.
Saltwater heretic!
Which has always puzzled me, because in all the years I worked in academia, the University of Chicago has long had a reputation as a good, tough school, and the other departments are reasonably progressive; however, the School of Economics is retrograde in a completely inconsistent way.
Why doesn't the entire Republican senate caucus just put their fingers in their ears and repeat: nananananananana I can't hear you?
Isn't that pretty much what thye're doing now?
I believe they've gone one better and put their fingers in everyone else's ears, saying "nanananana nobody can hear YOU now" to the Congressional Research Service.
Well, except that this obscure research report, and the dickheaded Repbublican reaction to it, is now all over the news. Like the parade of climate reports that they just don't want to hear about. Funny thing, though: despite GOP efforts to squelch the topic, people seem have been noticing the weather lately.
Because that would only keep *them* ignorant, and their goal is to keep the *voters* ignorant.
Yes, Fuck the EPA because obviously the environment and weather are not impacting America, the Library of Congress because the economy is great, and any kind of healthcare because we are all have the care we deserve. Why are people trying to screw with perfection? USA USA USA, and so forth.
“next to of course god america i
love you land of the pilgrims’ and so forth oh
say can you see by the dawn’s early my
country ’tis of centuries come and go
and are no more what of it we should worry
in every language even deafanddumb
thy sons acclaim your glorious name by gorry
by jingo by gee by gosh by gum
why talk of beauty what could be more beaut-
iful than these heroic happy dead
who rushed like lions to the roaring slaughter
they did not stop to think they died instead
then shall the voice of liberty be mute?”
He spoke. And drank rapidly a glass of water
– some horny guy poet with teeny initials
ee cummings must be the HORNIEST, no? YAY!
Nicely done there Chet, this is perfect.
Here's the master himself, recitin': http://www.motherbird.com/ee-cummings-he-spoke-an…
I love his voice, I love this – this in particular,
why talk of beauty what could be more beaut-
iful than these heroic happy dead
who rushed like lions to the roaring slaughter
they did not stop to think they died instead
It reminds me of the other day when prommie and I were reading some essays and talking about the great Maj Gen Smedley Butler – it's a shame that so many REALLY terrible people are in charge of such important things, and are able to convince so many to go along so willingly with their terrible agenda. ee is a win for the whole day.
Watch for Ann Romney's guest appearance playing the Empty Beaver on the first post election episode of "LaVerne and Sharia".
"Heresy!" cried the high priest. "Anathema!" proclaimed the bishop. "We know what we believe!"
They 'll be hating the maths a lot more on tuesday
Please GOD…
Please, please, pleas, please.i think I'm mumbling that in my sleep at this point.
They're already on that; just look at all the hate they're dumping on Nate Silver, and at the "unskewed" polls.
they'll be fudging the maths thanks to the new Bain investment in Diebold!
From your keyboard to God's inbox…
Geez, just privatize it and call it the "Halliburton Library of Go Fuckyourself."
"We've always been at war with the Congressional Research Service."
Maybe Mitch McConnell's efforts would be better spent pulling something a little closer to home, if you catch my drift.
Miss Lindsay?
At first I thought you meant taking his head out of his ass.
That too, perhaps.
Let's also retract all those studies linking the consumption of red meat to health problems. I happen to enjoy steak.
What a pack of feckless cowards. For people who like to spew crap about "socialism", if they had their way the government would have as much transparency as Stalin's did.
Why not just charge the CRS with treason?
Tax cuts for the rich don't stimulate economic growth? Next you're gonna tell me that deadly hurricanes are not God's punishment for gay marriage and abortion. As if!
Next they'll be trying to claim that the Earth actually goes around the Sun!
That would mean it's not flat!
I dunno, could be like a frisbee.
Or a Mobius Beltway.
Which is not what it says in the Bible! Ergo, a librul lie.
The Republicans also requested that the Congressional Research Service withdraw their report on the effect of the guillotine on nineteenth century French job creators.
They call Obama a "socialist" but the true ideological absolutists in the face of all evidence, akin to 20's leninists, are today's republicans.
…can this be fixed by chanting U-S-A?!?!
Can't everything?
…good point
Under Rawmoney, the Congressional Research Service will be replaced by the Legitimate Rape, Flat Earth and Global Warming Denial Service.
I read a report a while back saying cigarettes cause cancer. Turns out they used the wrong font so there's actually no correlation.
Also, I know someone who smoked all their life and didn't get cancer. Therefore wrong, QED.
I sure hope you're kidding. If I went through the aggravation of quitting smoking for no reason, I'm gonna be pissed off for real.
Considering Yertle's is the Minority Party in the Senate, just how do they get away with this shit? Oh, right. The Dims are a bunch of incompetent, spinless dicks, sorry, I forgot for a minute there.
"I belong to no organized party. I'm a Democrat."
~ Will Rogers
Eggzackle!
But they're our incompetent, spineless dicks.
Only because they are about 2% less sold-out than the R's. I'm being generous.
“There were a lot of problems with the report from a real, legitimate economic analysis perspective,” said Antonia Ferrier, a spokeswoman for the Senate Finance Committee’s Republicans.
And those problems would be…what, precisely?
Cuz, you know, history indicates that tax cuts below a certain level do nothing for the economy, but once Democrats take over and incrementally increase taxes, we have economic booms.
1. Big Republican donors didn't like the analysis.
2. Paul Ryan and other fans of his budget proposal didn't like the analysis.
3. Democrats liked the analysis and would've found useful ammunition.
"Problems" = "Our corporate masters didn't like these findings, because they feel they don't have quite enough yet"
Dewey Decimal or GTFO!
Dewey Decimal? Yes we do!
There you go again, citing statistical organization systems devised by LIE-beral LIE-brarians. That system will help you find books on Marxism, atheism, sexuality, etc… and is therefore clearly a tool of Satan and his whore of Babylon LIE-brarian sexually loose minions.
Remember Limbaugh said the Unabomber had to be a liberal because he was a mathematician! If economics were a good thing God would have put them in Leviticus!
I'm sure the Congressional teabaggers, good Xtians all, take to heart Jeebus' instructions to "give unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's." Like, you know, taxes.
Silly child-raping pill addict Rush!
There are conservative mathematicians; they just have to confine themselves to numbers smaller than 20.
“The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.” — Joan Robinson
Mitch "fucking" McConnell wouldn't know shit about economics if it hit him in the ass! With both hands!
QUIT WRECKING THE COUNTRY YOU WILLFULLY IGNORANT FUCKING BUNCH OF ZEALOUS IDEOLOGUES!
2 More years! (Maybe).
"You and your facts have no place where all we do is suck the dicks and lick the asses of the 1%ers."
-GOPer Senate Cockus.
Reality is not supported in the Book of Mormon, my friends.
or on the Senate floor.
It's a Pearl of Great Price!
A Pearl of Great Markup, at any rate.
Or a hat-full of bullshit, depending on your point of view.
Thank you, Wonkette, for provided a link to said report, also. It is part and parcel of the way their brains work, these old school republican dimwits, that they don't realize that with the internet you can't really pull it back once it's put out there.
We're an empire now. We create our own reality.
I didn't need a fancy report with analysis and math to know tax cuts don't create jobs. I just needed to live through* Dubya's administration.
________________________________
* unlike some, sadly
Wouldn't it have been easier to just shout "USA! USA! USA!" at the report until it burst into flames?
So all it takes to get a study pulled is for the minority leader of the senate to have a poopy-pantsed tantrum? Jesus Fucking Christ.
…if NASA utilized Republican "math" every rocket they launched would meltdown on the launching pad! We should give Republicans their own fukking island wear they can go and do whatever the fukk they want using whatever smurf based math they want and see how quickly they vaporize themselves. If you think science and math have a liberal bias, then chances are you were dropped on your head or were fed asbestos laced paint chips as a child
…[report author Thomas L.] Hungerford stood by its findings.
Thomas L. Hungerford linked to Saul Alinsky, Rev. Wright, Pol Pot, Al Quida and Smersh…tonight…on Fox News.
My basic math research shows me that every dollar those Kochsuckers and Shelley Addeledson pumped down that ass-hole in the ground Mittscarriage is the same as a dollar that didn't go into helping the next Rick Santorum or Michele Bachmann crawl up the slime ladder. That's my math, and I'm sticking to it.
"I know what I believe even if I have no basis in reality for what I am saying so don't be trying to contradict me with your godless facts." Mitch McConnell
McConnell: "We have no need for ancient ways, our world is doing fine…forget about your silly whims, it doesn't fit the plan!"
Feeling stabby now.
Logic like that is a kick in the balls to our political discourse.
"Atavistic gobshites?
In MY 21st Century?"
It's more likely than you think.
Since Mitt thinks empoyers should tell their employees how to vote, just like Putin, all government reports will have to conform to the standards of party dictated truth, just like Lysenko did for Stalin.
(Hitler was not mentioned in the construction of this comment).
Had me worried there for a minute…
Any evidence contrary to their ideas are immediately denounced as treason, disloyalty and heresy. There's got to be some old Soviet propaganda hacks turning out Republican talking points. Either that or the Repubs home schooling is turning out home-grown zampolits
You know who else required government reports to conform to party standards …
Remember when the Bush administration forced NASA to remove all references to both global warming and the Big Bang from its reports? Good times.
Mitch McConnell updates the truism: "he who controls the past because SHUT UP."
There are lies, damn lies, and then there are Republicans!
YOU SHUT UP WITH YOUR 'FACTS' AND 'LOGIC'!
Another shot in the Republic war on reality. Seriously, the republican party is becoming a parody of itself. "Truthiness" was funny because it described the right wing radio wackos so well. Now it describes every thing that leaves every republicans mouth. If a fact doesn't fit their world view, it is a lie and a conspiracy.
The thing is, I think they believe this for a simple reason: it's what they do. If every fact that you spout is made up, it is easy to believe that everyone else does the same thing.
Americans! Friends! REPUBLICANS LIE. THEY LIE AND LIE AND LIE.
The GOP don't need no steenkin' facts! The GOPpers want the methods "adjusted", to the point where Reagan's policies appear to be correlated with the Clinton boom years. Once that's accomplished, the methodology is obviously perfect, and Republicans will never shut up about what wonderful proof they have that tinkle-down economics works.
The plain and simple fact, which they can't/won't face up to, it that over the past 20 years, the rich have gleefully taken the billions they've saved thanks to lowered taxes, and banked it.
they should just re-establish the inquisition and be done with it.
Mitch McConnell is a Douche bag extra-ordinaire. It's a fact in the Library of Congress. You can read more about douche bags in your local library.
I know that quoting Orwell is one of the most obvious things a liberal can do, like threatening to migrate to Canada or Britain or running afoul of Godwin's Law, but dammit, really…
"How can I help it? How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four."
"Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.”
problems with the report from a real, legitimate economic analysis perspective
A) legitimate as in "Al Capone, legitimate businessman"?
B) "real, legitimate"? Almost like you're full of shit and trying to pile up words to make it all sound better.
If it was a legitimate report, a turtle would have a way of shutting it down.
Turtle & I shat on LibofCong budget wiped butt w/ fakakta tax reprt. Sexy librarian glasses hot but no cigar. Assume "facts" fucked
Wait until Texas sends Ted Cruz to the Senate. Usted no ha visto nada.
I thought he was dumb,
I said he was dumb,
Yet I've heard him cry.
First faint scream,
Out of life's unfathomable dawn,
Far off, so far, like a madness, under the horizon's dawning rim,
Far, far off, far scream.
Tortoise in extremis.
– D. H. Lawrence, horniest of guy poets
I thought Gingrich got rid of the CRS back when he was King Turd on Shit Island.
These are the same shitheads that complain about, say, IPCC reports being "politicized".
if this were 1934 Repugs would be burning books!
Hi, welcome! Here's the real report. Just read it.
I endeavor to whatever: The NYT noted the blasphemy received "wide notice." So my question is where? Among fellow know-nothing eggheads? Or among regular folks forced to believe anything that preserves their souls?
Either way, let's go bowling.
Next thing you know they'll be pushing a report correlating hurricanes with a need for publicly funded disaster releif. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!
You could make a case for e.e. having invented snark and the whole modern attitude…
Oh man, that's exactly what I said about Butler, and he and cummings were peers, of course, I love it, derision and mockingly false sincerity are some of my favorite devices.
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