Exodus International is one of those ministries that promise to help people who are gay but are raised in a belief system that tells them that their desire for emotional and sexual fulfillment with someone of the same gender is wrong by helping them come to terms with their true feelings curing them of gayness. Oh, whoops, did we say “cure”? Because it turns out that Exodus is now saying that they can’t cure your sweaty, unrepressible urges to have hot sexytimes with a dude (if you’re a dude) or a lady (if you’re a lady) and in fact it never could! This could explain a lot, like why two of the organization’s cofounders ran off with each other in the ’70s and got gay married. Find out after the jump if this epiphany has led them to have a more healthy and realistic attitude towards sexuality. (SPOILER: No.)
So Exodus is having its big annual get-together in Minnesota this week, just 600 or so folks chillin’, maxin’ and relaxin’, and 100 percent not even once fucking anyone of the same gender as them. But have they had the desire to fuck people of same gender cured out of them, by Jesus? No, obviously not, what are you, stupid, that would be impossible!
The group’s president, Alan Chambers, told The Associated Press on Tuesday that the conference would highlight his efforts to dissociate the group from the controversial practice usually called ex-gay, reparative or conversion therapy.
“I do not believe that cure is a word that is applicable to really any struggle, homosexuality included,” said Chambers, who is married to a woman and has children, but speaks openly about his own sexual attraction to men. “For someone to put out a shingle and say, ‘I can cure homosexuality’ — that to me is as bizarre as someone saying they can cure any other common temptation or struggle that anyone faces on Planet Earth.”
So Chambers is saying that gays can only be cured in space, we guess? The saddest part about the “same-sex lustin’ is just a temptation to be resisted, like other temptations” idea is that it seems to ignore certain realities. Like, for instance, stealing things is tempting to pretty much everyone (because it’s nice to have things without needing to pay for them) but should be resisted (because it’s not nice to take stuff away from other people). Whereas having sex with someone of the same gender is extremely tempting to some people and only mildly to not at all tempting to others, but should be resisted because, uh, really there is no reason, go on and do it already, Alan Chambers!
Oh, wait, what’s that, you already got married, to a lady?
Chambers said the ministry’s emphasis should be simply helping Christians who want to reconcile their own particular religious beliefs with sexual feelings they consider an affront to scripture. For some that might mean celibacy; for others, like Chambers, it meant finding an understanding opposite-sex partner.
“I consider myself fortunate to be in the best marriage I know,” Chambers said. “It’s an amazing thing, yet I do have same-sex attractions. Those things don’t overwhelm me or my marriage; they are something that informs me like any other struggle I might bring to the table.”
If you are married and know Alan Chambers, you are basically an embarrassment to married people everywhere. What on earth are you telling him about what marriage is like? Do you tell him that your every day is filled with dread at the prospect that you might have to touch your naughty bits to those of your opposite-sex spouse, that the monthly ritual will once again end in weeping and shame? Do you think you’re making him feel better, by telling him, this? Well, you’re not, understand? You’re not.
Anyway, we urge Minnesota-area readers to scour the local M4M Craigslist ads or just hang out in the men’s room at the airport, for comedy. Also, we present without comment the following Google ad that we found embedded in the AP story:
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Chambers should have been working on the cure for denial instead.
I thought the cure for denial was the Aswan High Dam and Lake Nasser?
Interesting use of the book of Exodus. Most people think that the Hebrews of Moses' generation were born into slavery, but apparently it was a choice, and all gay people need is someone to "part the waters" to the freedom of being straight, which will actually very much be like wandering in the desert for 40 years.
And Moses said unto the Pharaoh "Let my people blow."
Are you talking about Heblews?
"Go down, Moses…."
Actually I am very uncomfortable with the knowledge that most people I run into on a daily basis are having any kind of sex at all. I am no prize but there are some really unappealing people out there.
This is the NICE thing about sharing this world with other people. You can look at them and think, "Holy crap, this fucking LOSER actually got laid? There's hope for MEEEE!"
Wut, you thought I was actually going to say something nice and kind for a change? C'mere, you. (Hugs the Goon)
The idea that there is someone for everyone often gives me the cold shivers. I guess if alright but I just hope they keep it in the privacy of their bedrooms and not do it where they might scare children or animals.
Frighten the horses!
I’m sorry I think we need to reinstitute DADT and apply it to ugly heterosexuals in civilian life. I just don’t want to know if the Tim Horton lady that makes my coffee is getting any.
And hugs back
And what about rich old men who date / marry much younger women? That is really icky and gross, not to mention unnatural and wrong; I insist we outlaw it!
For everyone but me!!
Let’s not go too far here we wouldn’t want to impose our values on society as a whole.
That would pretty much end the whole point of being in the 1%. You would destroy free enterprise, capitalism, and the American way of life as we have come to endure it, in one stroke. Thanks, SorosBot!
Aw, Goon, now you've got me worrying about the damn Tim Horton lady!
I gotta start practicing being mean for the elections, man.
Actually she is kind of hot in a naughty librarian kind of way, I just like giving Tim Horton’s the occasional shout out.
Are Alan Chambers and Bryan Fischer fucking yet?
finding an understanding opposite-sex partner
Creepy, on so many levels…
You have to wonder what kind of straight person would want to marry someone who wants to throw up every time they have sex. That poor woman.
Well, he doesn't say, but it sounds like this Chambers fellow is bi.
As a bisexual person myself, I can tell you that a bi person wouldn't be so conflicted about their attraction to the opposite sex. This guy does not sound like any of the bi guys I know. Admittedly, my sample is small, and self-selected, so my conclusions might not apply.
The thing is, you're not a Republican Xtian anti-gay crusader, so of course you're not conflicted ;>)
“I consider myself fortunate to be in the best marriage I know,”
The other marriages he knows must really be horrible then; and considering that they're other fundamentalist Christians, that's really fucking likely.
Yeah, that statement really was…um, a little weird?
All the opposite-marrieds he knows must love having their marriages slammed by someone like Chambers.
My opinion is that he's trying to convince himself that his marriage is soooo wonderful when it's not. He's miserable. She's miserable. Yet they sit down with each other every evening for a good dinner of denial. Later comes the sexy stuff which they both hate.
I'm not finished outraging over the last post. I'll have to catch up with you guys later.
Movement of jah people…
Preaching at gay people.
Oh Alan, Marcus is on line two.
It's priceless that they have an annual convention.
All five of them, yes.
Convention, orgy. Whatever.
It's crazy wingnut, fundie, intolerant assholes religion on Wonket today. Hence, I'm feelin' a little stabby.
Well, it is a day that ends in "y"…
The official stabbin' and a-stabbin' and a-stabbin' and a-stabbin' song, just for you.
The new thing is to care passionately and be right wing.
This is the same kind of logic that assumes we don't need healthcare. Have a giant tumor in your brain? Just don't let it grow! You can do it! Well, with the help of your understanding opposite-sex spouse you can.
My opposite-sex spouse draws the line at understanding my brain tumours.
Needz moar vagina.
I think Alan actually needs less vagina and more dick.
Also, in a related story, Chuck Norris has lost his shit (more so):
Chuck Norris Supports Boy Scouts's Anti-Gay Policies, Suggests 'Pro-Gay' Obama Is Pushing Agenda
"Is it a coincidence that BSA national board member James Turley came out swinging against the BSA’s century-old policy to ban gays from leadership and that he has such close affiliations with the pro-gay Obama administration?"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/27/chuck-no…
Uh huh…
Damn Obama trying to shove gay Scouts down Chuck Norris's throat!
This is good news for Marcus Bachman.
Understanding wife=Taking it up the poop-chute while dressed like a boy scout?
Wearing a Ronald Reagan mask.
They rotate in "priest/alter boy", "Penn St coach/youth football player", and other role playing to keep things spicy.
OK I am on hold with Samsung in India, I suspect , and am screaming at some poor person and you have made me snort coffee out of my nose.
Thank you! And, I'm sorry.
Wait, that doesn't make
meyou gay, does it?Hey, ladies of Wonkette; don't you all wish you were married to a self-loathing gay fundamentalist like Alan Chambers, who is disgusted by your body and sex with you?
Such is the fate of so many women married to those dandy-boy conservative politicians, many from the south and bearing a more than passing resemblance in manner and affect to Ashley Wilkes. Except wearing lots of Polo or Lacoste and plaid shorts and topsiders.
Beverly Leslie libel!
Miss Lindsey Libel! (Fan me, Beulah—I've got the vapors.)
I'm fapping just thinking abut it.
I can't even imagine what it would be like, these two having sex. Does she wear a full-length flannel nightgown with a hole cut in it? Does he close his eyes? Do they both cry afterwards?
There is probably a porn for that.
Great, now I'm gonna wonder all day until I know for sure.
C'mon, girl, you OWE it to us to find it!
Oy, that image!
Nu? You weren't thinking it?
The image of a nightgown with a hole in it would never spring to my mind unless specifically called out.
I think y'all are missing the obvious in this 'marriage'. SHE wears the pants in that family…and the strap-on.
Actually, probably not. If he's *that* self-loathing, he probably believes he should be the Biblical head of the house yata yata.
But that does prevent him from being a naughty boy. A very very naughty boy…
That's a fine set of paddles you have there, chicken_thief. Do I sense video in our future?
Just as much fun as picking up a guy in a bar or a park and finding out the next morning that he plans to flog himself tearfully while praying because you two played bed-shark last night.
So does this mean Bryan Fisher has wasted all that money he spent on treatment?
They have treatment for assholism these days?
Bryan Fisher's idea of "curing gays" involved a smoke-house.
“It’s an amazing thing, yet I do have same-sex attractions. Those things don’t overwhelm me or my marriage; they are something that informs me like any other struggle I might bring to the table.”
Yes, being a gay man in a straight marriage is just like any other struggle you might bring to the table. Such as being a bit messy around the house, leaving the toilet seat up, and forgetting to put the little flag up on the mailbox when you mail a letter. SAME THING!
Hey, I only left it up the one time!
Soros, my love, if you don't already know by now — in the eyes of Teh Laydeez, once is enough. They will watch you like a hawk for the rest of your life in case you slip up again.
Clue for The Laydeez: Look before you sit. You've no one to blame but yourselves.
Clue for those gentlemen who might be wishing to get close to LayDeeParts: If Mama's happy, EVUHbody's happy. Keep the old lady happy, and you'll get a LOT more pussy than if you keep her mad.
True Love Story: for 62 years of married bliss, my Dad lowered that seat, and he taught his four sons to do the same.
Within a week of Mom's death, that seat started getting left up, and it did for five years until he died.
One of those little examples of chivalry that we might all live by—try to do the right thing when it counts.
Wow. That is an inspiring story, alright. 62 years!
After years and years of fucking up relationships, I have finally discovered that sometimes a very small thing can make your partner happy without costing you anything. And there is nothing wrong with making someone you love happy, because you will get that happiness back a thousandfold.
"I have constant urges to seek sexual and emotional fulfillment in the arms of a woman, in a heterosexual relationship, but I realize that this is simply a temptation, like any other. Though I find same-sex relationships distasteful, I am in a loving relationship with a gay man. Our sexual encounters are humiliating and unfulfilling, but the relationship keeps me away from improper conduct with women."
Doesn't really make sense, does it?
When you put it like that … it makes GHEY SEX sound awful!
"On the bright side, he is an excellent chef."
Chet, for some reason that fucking KILLS me.
Oh, I know why. One of my exes is a professional chef.
OMG, I just realized this is the Catholic doctrine underpinning the celibate priesthood!!
That sounds so HOT! If only
allhunky straight men felt this way.Well even the DSM IV said gayness wasn't a psychological condition and they think calistiphilia still is psychological.
*I'm sure I didn't spell it right*
Klismaphilia.
*FIXED*
calistiphilia, is that what Newt has?
Must be, since pretty much everyone else has callistophobia.
I guess Marcus Bachmann will have to go back to Swiss chocolate packin'.
Santorum back in the mix!
Apparently the only people obsessed with other people having same sex relationships are religious people who really want to have same sex relationships themselves.
You noticed!
You know I am hoping the members of Exodus are not having any kind of straight sex that could lead to procreation. The last thing we need is these people raising more intolerant homophobes.
It's a good thing Christianity doesn't say anything about lies, much less lies directed at one's neighbors that degrade their reputation or dignity.
You fool! The Ten Commandments are for EVERYONE ELSE, silly! *True* Christians are exempt!
Hell, can you just imagine if they only could cure the gay? That would mean they could cure the hetero, too! What a fucking world it would be, if they could just cure the hetero.
Curing gays of what?
Generally speaking, having fashion sense and well paying jobs, maybe?
If they could just cure them of that disgusting habit of moving into funky run-down neighbourhoods and turning them into beauties …
Srsly. Everybody *knows* you gotta buy into any neighbourhood where Teh Gheys are (girlz or boyz), because within ten years, your property will have appreciated hugely.
How odd that there's a cure for religious fundamentalism but not one for homosexuality. It makes you think that one of them might just be — um — unnatural.
So Chambers is saying that gays can only be cured in space, we guess?
I'm pretty sure I saw a movie like that.
In space, no one can hear you say "Hello sailor!"
What's it called? I have to see this.
"The Effect of Gamma Rays on Man-In-Your-Moon Marigolds"
Starring Marilyn Chambers, ironically enough.
As Jesus famously said about gay people: " "
And that's about all he ever said about gay people, too.
So basically, this guy's pushing an abstinence-only "solution" to the gay "problem". Yeah, that works so well.
Dude, if you've turned your whole fucking life into one unending "struggle", (A) you're doing it wrong, and (B) why the fuck are you trying to make other people equally miserable?
All of the members of Exodus International are homosexuals, and they all engage in homosexual relations, every week.
Hmm. Let me see if I have it straight (get it?):
Guys who like guys should marry girls who like girls, and then pretend they aren't gay.
Hate to burst your bubble there, Alan, but you haven't come up with a new idea. That's an old idea, used especially in Hollywood from at least 1925, called "wearing a beard".
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=be…
Paging Will and Jada Smith…
It's worked out well for Mitch McConnell and Elaine Chao!
Christian wackos can't stop me from having gay sex with my wife.
If God hates gays so much, he should probably stop making them.
Shorter Exodus International president Alan Chambers: "My wife likes to strap it on."
The would have been more successful if that had tried to cure ex-christians.
I wouldn't like to judge a woman who chooses to marry a man who is gay or bi, but I would really hope she realizes that 'curing gayness' works about as well as 'abstinence only' & she is keeping an eye out for possible health (including mental health) consequences for her & her family.
If you want to eliminate gay sex, then legalize gay marriage! WAKA WAKA! Amirite…anyone?
{crickets crickets}
I kid, I kid!
I like the photo. What's this post about?
So Chambers is saying that gays can only be cured in space, we guess?
Why do you think Newt wants to colonize the moon?
Best comment ever on Exodus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFo8NGO4nTA
This is bad news for Obama because, as is well known, the man's a big 'mo. (Priceless video)
the use of comic sans is always the most offensive part.
Oh, call off your old tired morality:
stealing things is tempting to pretty much everyone (because it’s nice to have things without needing to pay for them) but should be resisted (because
it’s not nice to take stuff away from other peopleyou might get caught).The self-loathing, repressive part of me LOVED this story.
Now there you go making that same mistake that has so many working people voting against their own interests because they think they're gonna be rich someday.
Ugh. Bad coffee and worse pastries.
You have to be in it to win it!
Worse than Starbucks?
That's how the Orthodox Jews do it. I suspect that Mormons have to keep as much of their magic underwear on as they can while at it.
Not catering to anyone who is too dense to look first.
There *is* that.
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