Police arrested four Christians for disorderly conduct the other day after they tried to distribute Gospel of John books outside the Dearborn Arab International Festival — held in the heavily muslinized city of Dearborn, near Detroit. According to “John,” who posted the arrest video on the Internet and also possibly wrote the gospel in question, “under Sharia law it is forbidden to proselytize to Muslims.” OK maybe. But WHO CARES, the Constitution rules the land, right? Not in Dearborn, the city where it’s “All Allah, all the time.”
The Michigan Messenger reports that at least one Christian ministry was permitted to distribute Christian lit outside the Muslinfest, and that “[a]ll groups, whether religious or not, were restricted to handing out literature from tables near the entrance.” So how come the four arrestees — including members of the group Acts 17 Apologetics — got singled out for jail time?
On their “Islamoblog” Answering Muslims, they explain:
Christians who accept that they are second-class citizens are welcome. Christians who insist that they have Constitutional rights are harassed, and even arrested.
These guys (plus one gal) don’t accept, they insist. And insisting leads to problems with law enforcement. Which necessitates video cameras (says so in the gospel):
We learned last year that Muslims won’t hesitate to lie about us in an effort to get rid of us. I would be horrified if Christians were so renowned for dishonesty that people were scared to walk among us without getting video footage. Can anyone seriously object to the cameras, given the fact that people have tried to get us into trouble through deception two years running?
There’s lots more words on the Acts 17 blog. It’s easier to just watch YouTube:
“Many people seem to believe that concerns about creeping sharia are exaggerated or misplaced. This incident demonstrates, I think, the contrary,” says “John” about the video, on his Power Line blog and doomsday prediction info-center.
Lucky for the proselytizers, they have new lawyer-friends to help them avoid execution. Ann Arbor’s Thomas More Law Center, a “Jesus! Fetuses! Bombs!” public interest firm, will try to defend the Dearborn Four. “Apparently the Constitution carries little weight in Dearborn, where the Muslim population seems to dominate the political apparatus,” says Thomas More lawyer Richard Thompson, who knows things when he sees them.
And lucky for the rest of America, more and more people are fighting Sharia before the Sharias fight us and fatwa all our dogs. In Oklahoma, where they’re always on the cutting edge of new paranoia trends, a state legislator is promoting the “Save Our State” amendment to make the courts stop basing all their decisions on sharia laws immediately. And you thought there was nothing in Oklahoma worth saving! [AnsweringMuslims.com/Power Line]
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Kinda telling that they chose John “Jesus is just a Get Out Of Hell Free card” instead of Matthew, Mark, and/or Luke “Straighten up and act like somebody”.
If Xtian fundies are true to form then I’m guessing at least one of them is a pork farmer.
“Creeping Sharia, creeping Sharia
You’ll come a-creeping Sharia with me…
And he sang as he sat and waited for the big fatwa
You’ll come a creeping Sharia with me.”
(apologies to Bearbloke et al.)
Poor Michigan. First the asian carp, and now this…
Antonio Santana???? Messican? And nice rack on that chick in the blue top.
And it seems they weren’t really “arrested” now, were they?
But really. There is no one I hate more than people pushing their religion on me. So, basically, they are mad that Muslins are pushing their faith on Christians by having a festival, but they aren’t doing that by standing there and shoving the “Gospel of John in English and Arabic” into the hands of Muslims.
Let’s do a little thought experiment here. What would these good Christians do if some Muslins were standing on that corner shoving the Koran into the hands of Christians at a Christian fair? Hennnngggghh?
I hate these people.
“It’s easier to just watch YouTube”
Really? For 6 minutes plus? No YouTube of everyday douchebags should be longer than 30 seconds.
Are these people really concerend about losing Dearborn to the Muslims? I say let em have it, do they want Newark as well?
So let it be written!
So let it be done!
I’m sent here by the chosen one!
So let it be written!
So let it be done!
To kill the first born Pharoh’s son!
I’m Creepin’ Sharia.
Fuck, just doesn’t work as well.
A clown, a Ferris wheel, yippee, the carneys are coming to town!
Well, I know *one* city that needs cartoon leaflet saturation bombing.
This is really disturbing…
An aggressive Michigan Caliphate – essentially a midwestern Ottoman Empire – could easily control Great Lakes shipping and our vast salt deposits. Keep a close eye out for attempts to re-open the battle for Toledo, which we thought was settled a century ago.
What next! Everyone in Michigan will have to wear a Burqa.
Sounds good to me,as long as (in honour of Henry Ford) they follow the rule that they’re all black.
“Creeping Sharia!” is my new favorite exclamation.
the asian carp are going to render that whole area uninhabitable within a year anyway.
“Name me any city in the US where I cannot stand on a public street outside the festival where I could not hand out information about my beliefs. You won’t find one.”
Uhhhh, tool in the red shirt, many cities (including mine) have ordinances banning or restricting distributing unwanted information/harassing residents on public streets (as well as panhandling and performing on public streets).
“Forget it, Jake. It’s Shariatown.”
Those horrible Muslims, trying to force their religion on Christians by existing and actually trying to claim they should have the same rights as America’s one true religion!
Who’s with me on getting a stack of Richard Dawkins and Bertrand Russel and trying to force them on these people while they’re at church?
OOOOOOOOklahoma, where’s the fatwa’s sweeping down the plain~
Where, also
let s dance…that ll piss em off!
Didn’t Metallica do the song “Creeping Sharia?” I always loved that song.
Wah! My god can beat up your god! Wah!
[re=605498]Redhead[/re]: You need a permit where I live if it is public property and permission from the business owner(or company) if it is public property. Also local parades and festivals do not allow just anyone to pass out stuff- you have to be pre-approved by the organizers. For instance, in some towns/jurisdictions here in MD- only an elected official can participate- candidates and their workers cannot.
Hahaha, that’s great, banning any law derived from Sharia law. Because, after all, unlike medicine, physics, chemistry, mathematics, philosophy, psychology, education, banking and finance, and navigation, law is something that Westerners came up with and developed completely on their own, with absolutely zero input or influence from the non-Western world. Yup, no input at all.
I mean, it’s not like we really need maritime law, right?
[re=605496]facehead[/re]: It’d make an awesome band name.
Stay classy, Xtians.
Interesting, if little known, historical fact:
Christ’s last words on the cross were not, “It is finished”; they were, in fact, “Trust me, it’s gonna get lame. I’m out.”
Michigan… I keep saying it. The South has nothing on the upper midwest.
Anyway, would they be happy if the Hare Krishnas came through the Vacation Bible School? Would they call the cops? Would the cops respond? Ahem.
“Going where I want, when I want” is fine. “Disrupting who I want, how I want” is W. Bush recount.
My god can beat up your god!
[re=605512]mumblyjoe[/re]: We can’t trust anything from Middle Easterners; such as the Hammurabi, so we should scrap the whole writing our laws down thing.
[re=605476]LittlePig[/re]:John was, after all, the “disciple whom Jesus loved.” Make of that what you will.
These nutjobs want a test case: “Let’s harrass the largest Muslim population in the US. Then it’ll be easier to harrass the smaller populations, the 7/11 guy, the newspaper stand guy, the lady in the supermarket with a scarf on, etc.” Then it’ll be whomever isn’t an evangelical lard-ass/presidential candidate who can’t put-put away on a Rascal.
If they’ve got hours to kill to pass out shit, why not focus on feeding the homeless and jobless? You can even slip a pamplet in a sandwich, fine. Practice what you proselytize, assholes.
“A Christian’s just a nervous Jew who thinks he bought himself an airtight insurance policy.”
The Man in the Glass Booth, by Robert Shaw
[re=605499]Dean Booth[/re]: Nice!
The Acts 17 fundies have nothing to fear. While Dearborn may be the epicentre of Muslin Amerika (actually, there are tons of Arab Christians in SE Michigan, which really blows the minds of the fundies when they realize that some of ‘dem A-Rabs subscribe to the same faith as them), Ann Arbor is the epicentre of batshit crazy Roman Catholic fundamentalism. That is thanks to Tom “Noid” Monaghan, who made millions of dollars selling shitty Domino’s Pizza and had a religious revelation to build a Catholic law school and “public interest law firm” after he blew a lot of his money on the Detroit Tigers and a huge collection of Frank Lloyd Wright shit.
Seriously, Monaghan is fucking crazy. The Domino’s Farms office complex outside Ann Arbor that the Noid built is a series of a gifuckingnormous F. Ll. Wright-style office buildings, a huge Catholic church, and the Ave Maria School of Law – which is about to move down to Florida as part of a planned Catholic community that the Noid created, kind of like Disney’s Celebration except with no pr0n, everything closed on Sundays, and a huge basilica in the middle of it.
So, yeah, apparently the Book of Revelations had the location of the final battle between Good and Evil wrong. It won’t be in Armageddon; it’ll be somewhere around Ypsilanti.
[re=605509]MarieDeGournay[/re]: AAAHHH NO! That’s what I get for not reading all the comments.
[re=605512]mumblyjoe[/re]: You’d think the fundies would love Sharia law. It’s not a lot different from the nastier parts of the Mosaic laws of the Old Testament – y’know, stoning, caning, amputation & even death for things like gambling, fornication, theft, being teh ghey, drinking, stuff like that. I mean, hell, many fundies love to call for eye-for-eye punishments and want to re-implement the death penalty for non-capital offenses like rape, so what’s so bad about Sharia?
I would be horrified if Christians were so renowned for dishonesty that people were scared to walk among us without getting video footage.
But ya are Blanche.
/eyeroll
Will those creeps who are creeped out about Sharia creep ban Al-Jabr? Also, too?
Many left brain-challenged junior high & high schoolers will rejoice. None more with the quadratics and bisexualnomial theorem and other such other Qaeda-inspired tortures.
I will let you all know, on these pages, when the 72 virgins creep as far west as Minnesota.
Stay drunk.
“Ya got fundamentalist Muslims,
Ya got fundamentalist Jews,
Ya got fundementalist Christians,
They’ll blow the whole thing up for you!”
– Tom Russell, “Who’s Gonna Build Your Wall?”
[re=605535]President Beeblebrox[/re]: a lot of fundies want to murder endangered whales and want to reinstitute ‘death by bear attack’ as a punishment for things.
Sharia law, nothing. These idiots want to go back to Nero’s Rome.
the Ave Maria School of Law
Yeah. Having that on your resume will have all the major law firsm beating down your door.
Screw Harvard.
[re=605493]Johnny Zhivago[/re]: An aggressive Michigan Caliphate – essentially a midwestern Ottoman Empire – could easily control Great Lakes shipping and our vast salt deposits.
To say nothing of the threat it poses for our strategic pie cherry reserves. Sure, we’d have the ones in Door County, WI, but for how long? Once the Michigan Caliphate controls the UP, it’s pretty much all over.
[re=605528]chaste everywhere[/re]: Ouch! That hurt!
[re=605550]Joshua Norton[/re]: Yeah, but where else can you take classes on Constitutional Law taught by Robert Bork?
http://www.avemarialaw.edu/index.cfm?event=faculty.profiles
I’ve got a new blog called Answering Both Of You Deluded Monotheistic Dumbshits
I planted some creeping sharia and it took over the entire lawn.
[re=605535]President Beeblebrox[/re]: But see, under Sharia law they call god “Allah”, and worship on Fridays instead of Saturdays, so the whole thing is totally different; the fundie Xtians and fundie Muslims are in no way basically the same intolerant religion with a few doctrinal differences.
The Arab International Festival is like a giant county fair. It has rides, a hot dog eating contest, and has as its corporate sponsors noted terrorists Ford Motor Company, AT&T, Verizon and Sam’s Club.
http://www.americanarab.com/events-a-programs/business-development.html
The majority of Arabs in the US are actually Christian.
[re=605531]HedonismBot[/re]: Well, I guess we were both immediately struck by certain people’s inability to enjoy something unless they can denigrate what other people have. Like Playstation or Xbox fanboys.
[re=605560]President Beeblebrox[/re]: Gaaah! I stopped looking at that page 5 minutes ago and my skin is still crawling.
I’ve never seen so may people just begging for an atomic wedgie.
[re=605565]JMP[/re]: To be fair, though, the fundie Muslims at least have enough taste to ban tacky six-story-tall lawn Jesuses(Jesii??)and/or Mohammeds, going “Touchdown!”, in their religion. So, while they lack every bit as much in tolerance, at least they make up a few points by having some fucking taste.
“Let’s harrass the largest Muslim population in the US. Then it’ll be easier to harrass the smaller populations, the 7/11 guy, the newspaper stand guy, the lady in the supermarket with a scarf on, etc.”
Sorry, I live in DC. You just described an Eritrean, a Salvadoran, and a rebbitzen.
[re=605569]MarieDeGournay[/re]: Hey, Playstation and Xbox suck; the Wii rules!
Good luck with that case guys. I’ve got 3,000 freshly printed tracts for the Value Voters Summit on why Pazuzu is the only true power in the universe and I really want to avoid jail time.
I may be the turd in the punchbowl here, but I actually support their right to hand out pamphlets that will be immediately thrown, their right to be blown off, and their right to be “those guys.” I’m torn on whether they should be responsible for picking up the litter from the discarded fliers, but lean towards yes on that too…
The Flying Spaghetti Monster weeps.
When I get approached by retards like these, I tell them I don’t want their handout-shit or to hear about it. In this clip, there was a waste receptacle a few steps away from where they were handing out their shit. I would have liked to see someone take the shit and ceremoniously dump it in the garbage can where it belongs.
[re=605560]President Beeblebrox[/re]: Robert Bork’s profile seems to be missing something. Not sure what, but I think it has something to do with an event that turned his name into a verb.
[re=605550]Joshua Norton[/re]: The Moot Court competition between the Ave Maria School of Law and the Law School of Liberty University will be a lot of fun.
[re=605569]MarieDeGournay[/re]: I read an article one time about people who listen closely to what others have to say, versus those who nod their heads politely while thinking of the next thing they want to say. (There was a survey, I can’t recall the percentages.) I have to admit I often fit into the latter category.
[re=605569]MarieDeGournay[/re]: I’m still stuck in 1998 with my GameCube. Too cheap (and grown up) to invest in a real console.
[re=605595]donner_froh[/re]: “God said it was OK!”
“Did not!”
“Did too!!! GOOOODDDDDD!!! LIBERTY’S BEING MEAN TO ME!!!!!!!”
[re=605583]peanutbutterjellytime[/re]: I may be the turd in the punchbowl here, but I actually support their right to hand out pamphlets that will be immediately thrown, their right to be blown off, and their right to be “those guys.”…
Get some of the things being handed out on the streets of Vegas and see how either group goes for it. In fairness to the Vegas folks, they don’t go crazy if you don’t take it.
I had creeping sharia once, but a single shot of penicillin cleared it right up.
I’m torn.
On the one hand, ignorant multihued nativist douchebag teatard wannabe-Sturmtruppen who can’t even be bothered to pretend to be serious evangelists, harassing innocent wimmin an chillun muslins for lolz and dreams of ho-pimping ACORN-busting YouTube fame.
On the other hand, douchebag police guy blocking the lens and confiscating the camera of a guy simply filming police officers publicly performing official duties in a public place in a non-crisis situation.
A shame no one resisted arrest. Only good things would have come of it.
I hate the fundies as much as anyone but I can’t exactly root for the mulsins. Actually, these two groups have a lot in common. They use both hate the gays and use the threat of violence or actual violence to control their women. In short, they are both full of gay sex addicts who are ashamed of who they really are so they overcompensate.
they need to get their asses down to the free speech zones. their disturbingly christian president george set those up a little while back, you’d figure they’ve heard about them.
anyway, much ado about nothing.
[re=605579]GtownMarla[/re]: “Let’s harrass the largest Muslim population in the US. Then it’ll be easier to harrass the smaller populations, the 7/11 guy, the newspaper stand guy, the lady in the supermarket with a scarf on, etc.”
Sorry, I live in DC. You just described an Eritrean, a Salvadoran, and a rebbitzen.
Sorry, you just described a black muslin, a brown muslin, and a scarf muslin. Real Americans know they’s all the same.
[re=605562]PsycGirl[/re]: You need one of the new Sharia x hybrids. It has more of a “clumping” habit, rather than the stoloniferous habit of the creeping sharia species.
I’m going to quit my job and go be a taxi driver in Dearborn. Because of the breastfeeding.
[re=605480]memzilla[/re]: Are you all happy and gay cause Australia got an atheist PM; that’s pretty good, actually, potentially. But amyway, the real jam in Dearborn (via NYC) goes like this…
Sharia is a fatwa- ha
Sharia is a fatwa- ha
Sharia is a fatwa- ha, now!
Sharia, Sha-a-a-a-aaaaaria, Baby!
(Sharia Baby)
Sharia, can you come out tonite?
(Come out tonite)
Why don’t you come ooooout,
(Come out)
Your fatwa’s so fine
(Comeout)
Your inspiration’s “divine”
(Comeout)
We’ll bomb the night away,
Oh Sharia’s mi-i-i-ne
– with apologies to The Four Seasons and Wonkette
“Imagine there’s no heaven, no religion too.”
-John Lennon
That should solve a lot of crap.
-WhatTheHeck
Yeah, ACLU’s gonna side with the wingnuts on this one. You can’t stop people from handing out leaflets in the public right of way; that’s pretty much 100 percent of what the First Amendment is for. ESPECIALLY religious and/or political pamphlets.
Oh, and nice to see that K-Fed lost the weight.
I’m pretty sure Sharia Creep is the single worst porn site on the Internets. Also.
Thank God there’s a law to stop people from handing out Bibles.
I declare shinanigans
[re=605726]Lazy Media[/re]: And the wingnuts will reject the ACLU’s help, because they will only be happy with wingnut Christian lawyers.
OK, now go to Clearwater, Florida and start ragging on Scientology and we’ll see what happens.
I think we kind of got the middle of the story. Seems like an awful lot of police descending on three people “innocently” handing out the Gospel of John. And the police took the opportunity to photograph them?
And our friend wearing a shirt proclaiming “I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery”?
I’ll place my vote with a new Hutaree group.
Hey, you can’t fatwa dogs! What will those Christians do for sexy-time when their sisters refuse their advances?
Where is Police Brutality when you most need it?
[re=605550]Joshua Norton[/re]: Seriously, with a ton of pretty good Catholic Universities out there, (DePaul, Georgetown, Gonzaga, Seattle U, Notre Dame, a couple of different Loyolas) why would anyone go to a crappy Catholic University like Ave Maria, Our Lady of Absurd Redundancy?
Hey, Mr Pizza guy, just because you have more money than God (or the Vatican) that doesn’t mean you have spend it on building more churches and Catholic schools. If you bother checking them you’ll notice ones we have are mostly just 1/2 full these days, they don’t need the competition. Meanwhile there’s an awful lot of hungry and homeless sinners out there that Jesus says you should be helping out.
[/disgruntled ex-Catholic]
One of them had the balls to try to proselytize them wearing a keffiyeh. Look at that hipster christian!
[re=605514]nappyduggs[/re]:
Bullshit, you heretic! Jeebuzzes last words were, “Peter, I can see your house from here”.
“I would be horrified if Christians were so renowned for dishonesty that people were scared to walk among us without getting video footage”
If only we had thought to slap a wire on all those pre-raped altar boys…
[re=605498]Redhead[/re]: [re=605583]peanutbutterjellytime[/re]:
Can’t pass out pamphlets on a sidewalk? Yes you can. It’s right there in the Founding Fatwah. Innit?
[re=605833]Einstein’[/re]:
Nonsense. Everybody knows Jeebus’s last words were, “Man, I love you guys thiiiiis much.”
[re=605726]Lazy Media[/re]: Ehh, you can definitely regulate it, which sounds like what happened here. It’s similar to rallies – yes, we all have the right to assemble, but there are still regulations, permits to be acquired, etc. that are required for any rally.
I bought a few yards of half-breed muslin once – made some lovely curtains.
[re=605516]Geogre[/re]: I have an explanation for that. Back in Detroit’s heyday, while the South continued to decay, there were low-skill jobs aplenty to be had all over Michigan and Ohio. Because of the swollen tax base, welfare provisions were also comparatively quite generous. So, anyone with enough scratch to make it that far moved from central Alabama to central Michigan.
I had 3rd generation residents as neighbors in my hometown who sounded like they were on vacation from Biloxi.
I attended a catholic high school in that neighborhood many years ago. I think it’s an Arab-American school now, but the church still rocks the mass on Sunday and I get to drive my mom there when I’m in town. I stay in the car while she worships with the other holdouts. Good times?
[re=605577]mumblyjoe[/re]: Sorry to disillusion you, but one thing that Wahhabi (ultraorthodox) Muslims don’t have is taste. Since pretty things are sinful, mosques in Saudi Arabia are hideous concrete toilet-block monstrosities with flourescent lights and lime-green carpet. And sadly, the Saudi monarchy are using their oil wealth to spread these monstrosities all over the Muslim world.
If I were King of the World, anybody handing out any religious materials of any kind or proselytizing on the public streets would be immediately arrested sent to the re-education camps.
Jesus said that if you want to pray, go into a closet and shut the door behind you. (Matthew 6:6)
Nothing like a good ol’ Murkin patriotic quote resting between a pair of giant man bosoms while the proud owner of the fine bosoms tries to pin blame for some perceived injustice on an entirely irresponsible group in aims to further stigmatize that group and perpetuate a fucking-asshole atmosphere of hate and willful ignorance, amirite?
God save America, idiots.
My Invisible Sky Wizard is bigger than your Invisible Sky Wizard….
Reading the comments reminds me of why I’m soooo thankful to be a conservative. The right of free exercise of religion is absolute and if an American Muslim wants to hand me literature and wish me blessings (as they have)I smile and say thank-you and move on. I believe that most of them here are docile and adequately westernized by the American Zeitgeist. (Full disclosure: I’m a professional librarian of 12+ years; a very liberal profession (ugh!) But I soldier on…. *sigh*
It was disappointing to read the comments following this article. I was hoping for intelligent discourse and instead was assaulted with disgusting language and no sense of integrity. Also, most of the comments don’t have any rational thought behind them, just a lot of anger towards anyone who dares raise the possiblity that God exists and that He might care what kind of selfish pig lifestyle they might be living. Please, get a life. A real one not focused on wah, wah, wah, little ole ME. You are not the center of the universe or the last word on the truth or lack thereof. If you have a decent vocabulary use it. Then you won’t be forced into using the F word instead of the proper word.
Except for VidarShouts! She has something the rest of you lack.
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