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  • TODAY IN HEALTH CARE GOSSIP: This just reeks of Rahm Emanuel’s farts: “Multiple sources tell TPMDC that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is very close to rounding up 60 members in support of a public option with an opt out clause, and are continuing to push skeptical members. But they also say that the White House is pushing back against the idea, in a bid to retain the support of Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-ME).” Here we will offer a rare moment of positive reinforcement: GO HARRY REID. [TPM]

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  • FMA

    I’m guessing Obama heard that Snowe is up to her ass in rock salt and wants to get in on some of that action.

  • problemwithcaring

    Un fucking believable….Hopey aligned with evil? Harry Reid…our only hope? Christ almighty.

  • Suds McKenzie

    This is not the push back I voted for. FUCK OFF HOPEY!1!

  • Bearbloke

    I wonder if Reid might be some sort of political-judo boost out of a show of “opposition” against “N0bama”?… after all, Reid is an elderly Mor(m)on from a sorta-Redish state…

  • colbycakes

    Our weekly episode of “Hopey Toys with Dropping the PO until the Libtards kick his ass back into line” was a little late this week, but at least we got it in before the weekend.

    Although the time it takes to say that title made it close.

  • Suds McKenzie


  • Sweet Baby Cheeses

    Rahm has been “leaking” stuff for months now. So messy! STOP IT RAHM.

  • SayItWithWookies

    Fuck Olympia Snowe. I thought the Dems were just going to use her to get that watered-down excuse for a bill out of committee and then toss her aside like cheap trash. Whatever happened to that plan?

  • Bearbloke

    [re=442750]Bearbloke[/re]: “might be” = “might get”…
    please excuse me, English is my first language…

  • ChernobylSoup v2

    I swear to god that Obama is playing America like we’re a video game. As soon as he masters a particular level, he deliberately lets his character die then immediately switches to the next level of difficulty, just to keep it interesting for him.

    Somebody buy the man a Wii for fucksakes.

  • AxmxZ

    If this is true – and fuck only knows if it is – Hopey would be wrong to do this. Opt-out trumps trigger.

  • user-of-owls

    [re=442766]AxmxZ[/re]: Meg Stapleton: “We are outraged by this vicious smear on Governor Palin’s special needs child by AxmxZ.”

  • PoignancySelz

    Compromise + Lobbyists + fear of filibuster (Oooooowww the filibuster, not the filibuster) + politiks as usual + Reid/Pelosi + RW propaganda = Crock of shit

    Single Payer Now

  • Come here a minute

    Opt-out vs. trigger? Public option is just another name for the death panels. I don’t care whether Harry Reid, Olympia Snowe, or Barack Obama gets to choose how they murder Trig, it is a bad idea, and only Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin can save us.

  • the problem child

    Damn, public option trumps bipartisan “success story” in my book. Think Hopey is hoping for a backlash so he had drop the bipartisan horseshit?

  • AbstinenceOnly Ed

    God I love the opt-out clause. Let Alabama kill itself in a sea of diabetes & pig flu. “Save us, beloved HMOs! We loooove ewe! Why, Cletus gots hisself an Aetna tattoo an’ everythin! ‘Course, y’all wouldn’t cover the treatments for the resultant Hep C, but OUR LOVE IS REAL! TamiFlu please!”

  • magic titty

    [re=442782]AbstinenceOnly Ed[/re]: “Let Alabama kill itself in a sea of diabetes & pig flu.”

    Man, that was good.

  • AbstinenceOnly Ed

    I’m so sick of Rahm-farts. He plays the Gríma Wormtongue to Obama’s muddled Théoden on every contentious issue. And if you understand my reference, +500 Middle Earth XP, -1000 Real Life XP.

  • ChernobylSoup v2

    I sincerely apologize for being way the hell of topic here. Y’all remember how Ken Layne used to post the occasional eye candy for the few breeders who hang around here? And how since he’s been gone all we get is that Levi Johnston kid all the time? Anyway, there’s this story on Huffpost about Charlize Theron making out with another woman. With pictures.

    You’re welcome. Now back to health care reform.

  • DustBowlBlues

    [re=442763]ChernobylSoup v2[/re]: Congratulations, Sir, Madame, Indifferently Gendered: You have the comment of my afternoon in one simple throwaway line.

  • DustBowlBlues

    Oh, dear. OK is bound to be an opt-out state. Just as their bumper stickers promised, someone will be prying those guns out of the cold, dead, (influenzed) hands of Leroy, Bubba and Junior.

  • x111e7thst

    Do[re=442791]AbstinenceOnly Ed[/re]: Does that leave young Meghan McC in the role of Lady Éowyn?
    (There is btw an actual House of Rohan http://www.chivalricorders.org/royalty/gotha/rohangen.htm)

  • AbstinenceOnly Ed

    [re=442818]x111e7thst[/re]: Meg McC is just a fat orc with Big Tits whose dad was friends with Sauron.

  • sati demise


    Public option for ALL trumps opt out;
    Opt out trumps trigger.
    Trigger is not better than nothing.

    Ready? Play!

  • Lascauxcaveman

    I hopey this is just another Obama-as-chessmaster-being-for-bipartisanship-before-he-was-against-it feint to make the the other side lose its balance.

    But I don’t really see how.

    Mr. President, there are lots of legislators out who will never support meaningful health care reform, (embodied by the “the Public Option with Opt-out” clause as the best we can hope for at this stage, it seems).

    These legislators have their reasons ranging from lobbying pressure (mostly), or maybe they don’t like a colored fella getting his way (more than you think), or they just don’t understand all them big words (Landrieu, et. al).

  • lawrenceofthedesert

    This sounds like the Dems are pretty sure they have the votes and now it’s a take the credit contest. However, it’s like a breakaway in a cycling race that’s approaching the finish line and playing games about who’s going to start the sprint — the peloton can come roaring down on them and the sprinters take the day away from the breakaway if they fool around too much. Too much diddling around and the health care vote could be endangered. Finish the deal!

  • Crank Tango

    [re=442793]ChernobylSoup v2[/re]: I don’t think you should ever have to apologize for bringing up Charlize Theron making out with another chick, anywhere, at any time.

    An “iphone” to you!

  • Lionel Hutz Esq.

    Can anyone think of any problems with an opt-out? I mean, unless you live in a state like South Carolina or Oklahoma?

  • Crank Tango

    [re=442838]Lionel Hutz Esq.[/re]: the only thing I can think of is that a bigger public company would have more buying power, but we all know they are gonna negotiate that away like that medicare bullshit a few years back.

    But otherwise, “chump don’t want the help, chump don’t get the help”

  • problemwithcaring

    [re=442838]Lionel Hutz Esq.[/re]: I said this on another thread, but one downfall might be the flood of diabetic kidney failure wingnut refugees to all the non-opt-out States. God help Colorado.

  • AbstinenceOnly Ed

    [re=442835]lawrenceofthedesert[/re]: I knew the Blue Dogs were blood-doping! DQ’d, Mr. Baucus AKA FLOYD LANDIS!!!

  • colbycakes

    After reading some more, my guess is: Reid came to the WH last night with his grand plan for the Opt-Out and 60 votes. The White House, understanding that Harry Reid is and will continue to be Harry Reid, figured that he had no idea what he was doing and asked why he’s not tickling Olympia Snowe’s trigger, as it seemed to be the sure thing (this last sentence was unexpectedly sexy).

    Then, this guy, Unnamed Sources, he tells it all to a reporter, and the game of telephone results in what we heard.

  • June Cleaver 2.0

    If we get opt out, eventually red staters will feel like illegal aliens moving to Connecticut and etc. We’ll have to put up check points after Prez signs the bill.

  • Suds McKenzie

    [re=442921]June Cleaver 2.0[/re]: yes

  • June Cleaver 2.0

    I’ll make an exception for my red state Wonkette friends and smuggle you guys in. You’re welcome.

  • Violenza

    Can’t trust a handsome Democrat, they’re too fucking slippery!

  • zoink

    [re=442835]lawrenceofthedesert[/re]: Alright! Venga! venga! venga!

  • LowerdPeninsula

    [re=442782]AbstinenceOnly Ed[/re]: Except that when you let people opt-out, you essentially make what is already an anemic compromise (i.e. “the public option) completely worthless.

    I hope you all remember what happened when the South believed it had it’s own little “opt-out” option during the middle of the 19th Century. If that’s any example of what is to come, then it’s time to re-animate the corpse of General Sherman.

  • Jukesgrrl

    [re=442838]Lionel Hutz Esq.[/re]: At first, I thought Opt Out was a good answer. But then I started thinking about that old joke about the people starving in Africa (why don’t they just move?). Are the poor just supposed to migrate? I understand that voting doesn’t cost anything (this year anyway) and if the poor had brains they would vote blue, etc., etc. But if you can’t get it together to move to get your kids a decent education, you probably can’t get it together to move to get better healthcare. So we’re just supposed to let these dumbasses die because they were unlucky enough to be born in SC, AL, MS, etc., etc.? On the other hand, how many of those loser states actually DID return the stimulus money? About as many as will actually Opt Out. OK, I’ll go back to bed now.

  • Jukesgrrl

    PS: Rahm is still a farty asshole.

  • gurukalehuru

    [re=443058]Jukesgrrl[/re]: No state will opt out for more than one election cycle.

  • Aurelio

    [re=442828]sati demise[/re]: Trigger is not better than nothing. Trigger is a horse. Actually, he was a horse. But I’ll bet he didn’t die from lack of health care. In fact, I’ll bet he got better health care than most Americans. They shouldn’t call Olympia Snowe’s see-ya-later health care plan “Trigger.” It’s an insult to Trigger.

  • Aurelio

    And an insult to Trigger’s excellent health care plan.

  • Cord

    Still don’t understand why people think the public option is the best legislation…it doesn’t compare to the the Healthy Americans Act from Senator Wyden: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_Americans_Act