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- CLONE ARMY? THE HOLOCAUST BUT WITH MUSLIMS? If you haven’t already, read this whole terrifying story about the NEWLY DISCOVERED CHENEY/CIA-ONLY SECRET PROGRAM, and enjoy reading Official Sources tease like mad jackals, along the lines of, “Can’t tell you what the program was, but man… that was… whew… holy fucking shit… just damn.” Leon Clinton Panetta only found out about this Other Program’s existence on June 23, and cancelled the dickens out of it one hour later! Oy. Just scan through the Seymour Hersh tag; it sounds like the Secret Band of Assassins thing. [NYT]
And this will be leaked in 5, 4, 3 …
Reached for comment the former Vice President replied “So?” and hung up the phone.
I would not be surprised if a lot of Americans would be up for an anti-Muslim Holocaust.
Zhu Bajie
The secret, radical, and shortly thereafter aborted program was, “don’t randomly go to war with Iraq.”
My mind still reels over the idea that a VICE-PRESIDENT could have this much power. Papa Joe Biden can’t even say “hello” without a foley artist standing by to dub over his shit. I’m pretty sure he has administratively mandated quiet time, also.
I can’t believe anyone still harbors doubt as to the vaudeville dummy act that was the Gee Dubs “presidency.”
zhubajie: That would make the Middle Eastern situation immensely more complicated, though, since all of a sudden the Muslims would have a rather compelling claim to a protected home in the Holy Land.
Future Headline: Sy Hersh Killed in Hunting Accident
Aside: Does Leon look scared shit lately?
Sweet zombie Jesus!
Oh goodness, more unemployment…can’t we just let them keep killing random Muslims until the domestic unemployment picture improves? We bailed out GM for basically the same reason. I’m not saying I approve but since we’re doing it already…ya know…just sayin’….
If we’re running out of Muslims, I’m sure RedState and the Freepers would volunteer to have themselves greased if it was for Jeebus and Ammerika. Think of all the socialism we’d be sparing them if we riddled them with bullets now instead of waiting for them to blow their brains out when we switch over to Ameros.
“Cheney Is Linked to Concealment of C.I.A. Project”…
isn’t that a bit like “Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States”?
By your commentering you prove you have been party to inappropriate early information.
The helicopters are coming. By their shining blackness you shall know them. At night. Also.
Well, by their thud-thud-thud sounds you shall know them. And when landing they’ll really screw the gladioli which looked so nice in the yard.
Intelligence and Congressional officials have said the unidentified program did not involve the C.I.A. interrogation program and did not involve domestic intelligence activities. They have said the program was started by the counterterrorism center at the C.I.A. shortly after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, but never became fully operational…
And if you believe this I’ve got some land off the coast of Nebraska for an unbelievable price that you are just going to love!
Intelligence and Congressional officials have said the unidentified program did not involve the C.I.A. interrogation program and did not involve domestic intelligence activities. They have said the program was started by the counterterrorism center at the C.I.A. shortly after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, but never became fully operational, involving planning and some training that took place off and on from 2001 until this year.
That paragraph has the highest bullshit-per-word ratio of anything I’ve read recently. Most fascinating is how Cheney is linked to the program, and yet it was started at the CIA. Just like how the torture memos were worded as though they were responses to a CIA request asking to be allowed to torture. Which original letter seems not to exist — nobody has produced one, nobody has even said one exists.
That a reporter bought that line at this late date in history sets my teeth on edge.
Oh, and it “never became fully operational.” Right. In fact, it never even really existed. A drawing scratched on a cocktail napkin is what it is. Nothing to see here. They’ve just been planning and training for it for the last eight years. How does such a gullible person become a reporter for the New York Times? Oh wait — nevermind.
hobospacejunkie: I can further confirm that the program DID NOT involve the deployment of sharks with laser beams attached to their heads.
So, what is so horrible that Panetta would have cancelled it in an hour? And is worse than secret interrogation camps? Worse than waterboarding and other torture? The mind boggles. When you think that you’ve seen the most evil thing Bush and Cheney did, they reach a new all time low.
Wow, wotta relief! Here i thought, silly me, that Dave Addington was running his own secret army of assassins on the public dollar. Turns out it was Dick Cheney, an actual elected something or other, Shogun, whatever. Somehow or other, I’m sure that makes it better. And since, as noted above, it never (winky winky) “became fully operational” (why is it that actual intelligence guys now sound just like Ludlum characters?), there’s not story here! Move long, people!
It doesn’t matter. We could cold hard evidence that Cheney skull-fucked American soldiers, and he will still never be prosecuted.
I’m beginning to believe that Bill Hicks “what’s my agenda” joke is true.
“not fully operational”
Beware the liar’s words…
SayItWithWookies: My shoes hurt, too, SayItWithWookies. My shoes hurt, too.
I guess I see why even Bush isn’t answering any of Cheney’s phone calls, anymore.
Cheney is actually an entity where there is no such thing as exaggeration. Think up the most horrible thing in the world, and Cheney’s done it, been apart of it, or oversaw it.
Terry: It’s not like it was some kind of Spanish Inquisition!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uprjmoSMJ-o
Why be afraid of some “never fully operational” black-helicopter group when there are a hundred fifty thousand Burmese pythons loose in the Everglades (that was last month: I’d say it’s a safe bet there are more by now), and our beloved Congress is CONSIDERING an import ban on large constrictor snakes. But here’s the beauty part: the Pet Industry Joint Advisory Council (PIJAC) here in Your Nation’s Capital is loudly informing us that such tyranny would only drive them underground, so we would do so much better to stick with the VOLUNTARY safeguards the Pet Industry has already established, which are, as you can guess, a really huge fucking success thus far.
Cheney, Liz, & Addington seem to be hard to find now ~
All I wanna say is that
They don’t really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don’t really care about us
Beat me, hate me
You can never break me
Will me, thrill me
You can never kill me
Jew me, sue me
Everybody do me
Kick me, kike me
Don’t you black or white me
All I wanna say is that
They don’t really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don’t really care about us
“not fully operational” is just the lure they use to get you in close. Then, once you’ve committed yourself to shutting down the (redacted) program…then BEHOLD THE POWER OF THIS FULLY OPERATIONAL (redacted)!!!!!
“not fully operational” means they were still in the beta-testing phase. Maybe Panetta got a hold of the bug reports.and by bug reports, I mean ‘enemies’ list… and by ‘enemies’ list I mean Americans targeted for ‘accidents’.
You know what “not fully operational” means:
“It’s a trap!” - Admiral Ackbar
See - See? This is EXACTLY what Cheney was trying to warn us about back on March 15. Obama will spare no effort in his “Death to America” summer tour. I hope Dick feels way less safe than he used to.
Terry, it’s MUCH worse than you can imagine. I can’t reveal details but think undisclosed location, unspeakable evil, clones, South America, Gregory Peck. The tragedy is the cover up, though. Panetta learns about this never “fully operational” program and immediately shuts it down on June 23. Early THE NEXT MORNING, Mark Sanford shows up, supposedly returning from a hike in the woods that mysteriously turns into a week deep in Argentinian bush. Sanford is taking the fall - he’s doing an Andrew Young for Cheney. But that army of flesh eating anti-terrorist zombie ghouls they’re breeding in the jungle won’t look at all like Governor Fish-Boy. I just hope the crews can destroy the unearthly bunch of them. Getting your face blown off in a “hunting accident” would be an afternoon at the pool sipping ice tea compared to what they will do to us. Gnawing at our ankles until we topple over, then slowly chewing and crunching their way up, slobbering up the gushing streams of blood.
Also.
oldguy: Princess Di was a zombie ghoul, and she was murdered for her beliefs.
Secret band of ass assassins you mean…
LoweredPeninsula: I swear to God, he’s like the GOP’s very own edition of Ernst Stavro Blofeld (minus the cool), determined to subvert the Constitution and destroy the United States…
Mr Blifil: No, that’s The Family..assassinating asses one ass at a time, in the name of jesus and Capitalism.
hobospacejunkie: Ha. We are brilliant and insightful.
SayItWithWookies: Don’t blame the reporter for only reporting what he can confirm, or is unable to confirm, from at least two sources.
I know that sounds completely waffletudinous, but you have to realize that the press always fears the cost of litigation, and won’t print what they can’t confirm from more than one source in 99.99% of the cases.
As for why Panetta shut the program down so quickly, we can only hope the current administration has the exact sense of abhorrence which the previous administration lacked.
Smoke Filled Roommate:
Cheney Is Linked to Concealment of C.I.A. Project”…
isn’t that a bit like “Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States”?
And Jack Bauer saves the world.
The following takes place between 2002 and 2008.
Cheney is lonely, unappreciated and is always doing the heroic and right thing, sacrificing himself for our sins. But all the bad “mad jackal” rule-pickers and prosecutors and scoop-mongerers keep getting in the way!
A short late-night musical interlude:
Song “I Nailed Sarah” is here:
http://indieonestop.com/jamroom/bands/183/info_2007.php
That being said, I do believe that just as Joe McCarthy could not have done more damage to this country if he had actually been born in Moscow, so Dick Cheney could not have done more damage to this country had he been born in Alquaidistan.
memzilla: If they don’t find it abhorrent enough to prosecute then it’s for nothing.
chascates: Awww — that’s like saying you banged Terri Schiavo. I mean, a vegetative state is a vegetative state.
SayItWithWookies: We must look forward, put these mistakes behind us and make sure they never happen again. Criminalizing disagreements over policy can only hurt our great nation. I trust my fellow Americans agree there is nothing to be gained from prosecuting those who only had our nation’s best interests at heart. If we must, let’s appoint a blue ribbon commission, with no subpoena power, to study the mistakes made by the previous administration. If the statute of limitations expires while the commission does its work, that is a matter of regret.
As several people said on MSNBC Friday night, though, there’s a new, likely to remain unspoken by our nation’s highest officials, reason there will be no investigation and no prosecutions. No one wants to investigate because everyone knows an investigation will lead to the highest office, implicating W himself. This sounds very reasonable when said aloud by serious-minded talking heads. But only a moment’s reflection gives way to the realization that this is some serious 1984, up is down, black is white almost unbelievable bullshit. The W administration’s crimes must not be investigated because they will uncover W’s crimes.
Well, at least Holder is leaning toward something….
You know what “not fully operational” means:
Yeah. “Powered by Windows Vista”.
Mr. Newell:
That’s a Cheney-CIA, not “Cheney/CIA,” program. My Wonkette should demonstrate proper dash/slash (dash-slash?) usage.
Thank you,
Justin Hale-Clownfarts
Word has it that not only was it a team of trained assassins, but it was a team of trained monkey assassins
what the hell does this mean?
Representative Peter Hoekstra of Michigan, the top Republican on the House intelligence committee, said last week that he believed Congress would have approved of the program only in the angry and panicky days after 9/11, on 9/12, he said, but not later, after fears and tempers had begun to cool.
chauncey: God, do I hate that that guy is from my state (and running for governor, no less, though, he’ll go down in flames).
What he means is that we’d have emotionally and irrationally lashed out immediately after 9/11, but not after, and it really disappoints him that we hadn’t come up with this the day after and slipped it through. lol
Cheney would dispatch of his own mother, personally, if it meant augmenting his power. Republicans (and some Democrats) really are authoritariphiles. Power, especially absolute and unlimited concentrated power, makes them orgasm. Oh, and teenage boys. Tambien.
Hooray For Anything: Missed this one.
I heard it was a crack pod of dolphin assassins. Dolphins, you know, will eventually rise out of the waters and own the entire human race.
chauncey: “Ticking Time Bomb” mythology. Hoekstra should have thought of something that would happen on Sept 13th if he wanted to seize the fear and temper moment of Sept 12.
lizard scum: Cheney’s mansion is joined to the CIA in Langley. The sign at the entrance saith, “You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
See the Wonkettte article under Read More: “Cheney’s New House Is CIA Adjacent”
Can’t we just thrown Cheney into SuperMax and finally put this long national nightmare to rest?
And what powers does the Vice President have to do anything other than preside over the Senate? When Cheney broke the law (and telling the CIA not to report to Congress is a violation of the law), it only had any force if it was with the President’s approval.
I don’t care if we do a pussy ass Truth Commission instead of a real trial, but we need to do something to make sure everyone is aware of the total disdain for the Constitution and the laws of the United States that was central to the Bush Administration. Come on Dems, for once show some balls. The Constitution, Truth and basic American Morality are on your side!
artbot2000: I saw a documentary about the mafia where an FBI agent said that after The Godfather came out the mobsters all started talking like the characters in the movie, same for Goodfellas. Maybe the CIA’s Bullshit Artists are the same way and are just really jazzed about the new James Bond films.
It seems we’ve found out about the secret plot to kill Michael Jackson too late.
facehead: And Princess Di. Also.
I would like to thank you guys for being entertaining and informative during my eight hour slave gig. Now step up your game, dammit. Massa just called overtime!
the lady MS. Sheila Dixon: You jus’ tell ole massa that Resident Negro President Barack Obama set all of the slaves free (again) and take your deserved leave of absence. Can’t nobody take your pride; can’t nobody hold you down. Oh, no; you’ve got to keep on movin’, black power, Michael Jackson, fist salute and so forth and so on…
But he gonna whup me bad if’n I sass him….. oh wait
It’s times like this I understand Morning Joe’s whoring. I would kill for a venti hazelnut latte right now.
the lady MS. Sheila Dixon: Well, then, it looks like we’re going to have to lead a Civil War 2.0 to your place of work and emancipate you. Sheila Dixon…hmmm…that’s Baltimore, right? Well, you hold on while I form the a New Union Army starting here in Detroit (we’re still looking for Kwame), and we’ll be down there in a few you liberate you.
Detroit hmmmm… does liberate = steal my job?
the lady MS. Sheila Dixon: Depends. What’s the occupation? Us Detroiters don’t steal just any ole junk, you know. If it sparkles when held up to a light…maybe.
But, I shouldn’t have to tell you; you’re from Baltimore, after all. Kwame may have been a sonofabitch, but unlike Sheila, he was never indicted for theft, after all. Also. So, when we get down there to ‘liberate’ you place of work, just make sure you dont’ rob us blind.
Don’t bring your Target card and you should be okay.
And Micheal Moore. Don’t bring him either
And Ted Nugent… his a$$ would get smoked at BWI
Don’t be too proud of this technological terror you almost (?) constructed, Dick; the ability to hook leads from car batteries to almost innocent (?) Uighur gonads is insignificant next to the power of the Snark.
AKA, This Warblog Kills Fascists, also.
Lionel Hutz Esq.: Won’t happen. There’s no better way to show that you Hate America than to go on and Respect the Rule of Law (in America)
artbot2000: A few tiny ball pythons in the ‘Glades ain’t the real problem, it is the large population of flushed gators in the sewers. Along with the orphaned CHUDs from the Cheney-sponsored, almost fully operational black ops program(s).
The chairman of PIJAC, Frank Koc, of Natural Balance Pet Foods just recently announced his product line extension into the “highly genetically-modified defense industry reject ‘companion’ animal” kibble market…
schvitzatura: mmmmmm fried gonads http://www.yeetle.com/gonads.htm
oldguy: Doug Jones and his genetic material are already booked on in-development and pre-greenlit media projects all the way through at least 2013. Look elsewhere for convincing scary shit.
The Umbrella Corporation of Raccoon City was awarded the no-bid contract via a front company (Fröhlich Spaß Kugel, GmbH) back in 2001…for Cheney-inspired scary shit.
I hope Riley will be at the Supreme Court protest with Randall Terry today(is it still on?). I was going to go and make my adult daughter wear a sign saying- “My mom tried to abort me but I stopped her”(or something else). However, we will be feeding some of DC’s homeless this afternoon instead(If any former W admininstration employees show up-I’ll let you know).
schvitzatura: i bet you’re a lot of fun around the campfire
Don Juanquete: As opposed to the inscription over Cheney’s place, ABANDON ALL HOPE YE WHO ENTER HERE
the lady MS. Sheila Dixon: A command performance in Bal’mer, for Deb’ils Night might be in order; 30,000 abandoned, derelict buildings would fuel enough light to flicker in the faces of the duly frightened. For 50 miles around. Også.
Lionel Hutz Esq.: Put in the cell with Charles Manson, the two of them would get along famously, they have so much in common.
SayItWithWookies: Or you guys watched a HELL of lot *(of)* Mr. Sho***w***. Rather.
chascates: When called back, he said “go fuck yourself” and shot them in the face.
Holy shit.
These are the hybrid little shop of horrors things that Cheney feeds the Zapatistas to?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwgw7Y-rlmo
Whatever. Just keep ol’ Dick alive. No gettin’ off the hook with one of them heart attacks. Stand up and get tried and waterboarded and flogged and hung, Dick.
JoeHoya: well, our favorite Twitter blabbermouth Hoekstra is one of the people In The Know. (Speaking of “People who shouldn’t still have security clearances …”).
MGYGB: I’ve been watching Panetta’s career for some decades now and he strikes me as an essentially good egg. If I were in charge of a large portion of cleaning up after Cheney’s excesses, I suspect that I’d look like that too. But yeah, Leon shouldn’t get in any small planes.
So if anyone is desperate for food and shelter, there is a burgeoning need for assaulting Dick Cheney. It would be one hell of a way to quit your job as a waiter, employing enhanced interrogation techniques.
Democracy tastes good, but you don’t want to see it made. No, wait, that’s sausage.
ForTheTurnstiles:
Holy shit! I’m wondering what they taste like but I suspect they’re wondering the same thing about us.
Reminds of The Day of the Triffids.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5×0rdtAv9jg
So…what do we do with all this info about Cheney and the CIA? Because I’m all out of outrage; I spilled the last drops when we attacked Iraq for no reason, rounded up innocent Arab-Americans and put them in secret prisons, used their naked bodies for camera shots and made a mockery of the U.S. constitution. Nobody in the previous administration has been brought to justice or even been investigated so I’m just gonna go watch some stuff I got TiVo’d before they get deleted.
azw88: “beta testing..”
Maybe the code name was ‘Wellstone’..
Smoke Filled Roommate: If you mean that Bush ignored both, then yes.
Maybe they found out Cheney had Wellstone & family iced.
That was just too, too, too coincidentally favorable for the war-lusting Right Wing at that moment in history. I have no proof; just a saggy old lady’s excellent intuition.
But the way I smell it, either they had Wellstone taken out, or God really *DOES* prefer and love batshit insane greedy bloodthirsty Republican Fuckfaces.
In which case, man, I hope I’m going to hell.
I’ll probably find much nicer folks there.
Snarkfest: Great minds …
restlessleg: “Nobody in the previous administration has been brought to justice or even been investigated so I’m just gonna go watch some stuff I got TiVo’d before they get deleted.”
I know. Me too. Isn’t this “learned helplessness” a bitch? There are so many things wrong, so many recent horrors hundreds of times worse than Watergate, that I have total Outrage Fatigue. I feel like I’m riding in a plane that’s just run out of fuel, with no parachutes and no Plan B. Half my fellow countrymen have just lost their damned minds (”liberal media”???????????? if only! “socialist president”?????????? if only!) and are loading up their guns and preparing to shoot, perhaps mercifully, people like you and me. The other half are either stuck in stunned silence or some equivalent of trying to yuk it up here on Wonkette, my favorite purveyor of end times gallows humor.
I’d say “God help us”, but I’m not sure there is one … or if there is, why the hell he/she/it would help a bunch of miserable greedy stupid losers like us.
I like our new president. I think he’s cool, and it’s nice not to have to cringe each time he opens his wordhole in public. But I don’t think he’s going to be able to help us much. He seems to be in thrall to the Goldman-Sachs Crime Family, instead of to the Bush Crime Family, and it’s not much of an improvement.
Oh well. Doom and gloom. Happy Sunday, everybody. Hell, at least the weather’s nice here, the tomatoes are ripening in my garden, and I’m going to a barbeque soon to drink my face off. And, as you say, there’s all kinds of cool stuff on TiVo. That new show “Breaking Bad” seems like a fine metaphor for our times, and Bryan Cranston and the little blond weenie with too much forehead are doing a hell of a job. If you think *you’ve* got it bad, at least we’re not *that* poor fucker.
If thi is so much worse than what’s gone before that nobody will even talk about it, it must have to do with aliens from outer space or the end of times. Maybe both.
LoweredPeninsula: Sex in the City?
…the “white room”, which is a very imaginative minimalist/maximal arrangement — four walls, all white, recessed fluorescent tubes in the ceiling under the fine wire mesh 24 hours a day, stainless steel commode set into the middle of the floor, walls padded so you can’t hurt yourself. They keep the temperature at about 49 degrees Fahrenheit and feed you Ensure through a tube twice a day. Of course they take away your clothes when they process you, check all your orifices. They won’t hurt you physically, much more sophisticated these days. Ozzy Osbourne at top volume irregular intervals 24/7. After a few days, weeks, months, depending on your durability they bring in your confession and you sign it …
Ok, so what is the reliable rumor that the elite press knows about this stuff and is not telling the rest of us?
You know, in one of my hours of utmost need, Cheney appeared to me and coached me through my crisis. He specifically said on several occasions that he told me about the importance of fiber. It took a painful incident with an authentic New York cheesecake for me to pay attention to what he said. I will always love and remember him for that.
LittlePig: Actually, it’s Arbeit Macht Frei.
Whenever I see the letter combinations “Dick Cheney” I have to take a shower.
It’s still a good patriotic American thing to do to read Lou Dubose’ book about that evil MF.
Just when I thought the program was too big to fail…
“not fully operational”
Like the Death Star ruse, eh? Death Vader strikes again!!
Don Juanquete: I stand corrected. It’s a Cheney/Cheney or Cheney (CIA) program.
(reprinted from previous, wrong post)
Maybe we’re jumping to conclusions here in thinking that it’s some sort of band of assassins. Maybe it was nothing more than the CIA supplying fertile young virgins for Cheney to sacrifice? Either that or Cylons.
iolanthe: Word. I’ve watched this gubmint betray us, lie and fuck up and get fucked all in the name of the almighty greedy dollar for far too long. Sigh. when rightwingers got all outraged over Nancy Pelosi saying the CIA lied to her, my head just about ’sploded. Conservatives: how dare you say the CIA lied? Me: wha? they done been lyin’ since they’s was conceived during WWII, yo.
Watching this sad, sorry freak show unfold is exhausting and frankly depressing. Not to be a downer on a sunny day, but it feels like Sysiphus rolling that damn boulder up the hill, and we ain’t never gonna get it to the top & have it really stay there.
I, too, like Barack, and yes, how wonderful not to cringe every time he opens his mouth. I do think he’s a good guy who is trying his best. But yes, sadly he is in thrall to Wall St, Inc, who are as bad as CIA or worse. I don’t entirely blame him for being afeared of lifting up the rock covering the shitty, crawly, pustulence-ridden, excrescence left behind by Cheney & W. Ugh. A national nightmare.
And yet, just as everyone cooed & awed that shitty Gerald Ford refused to prosecute Tricky Dick Nixon “for the good of the nation” so we can all “heal,” not prosecuting the shit outta these hellish bastards just leaves the door open for worse to happen at any old time.
You think that the CIA hasn’t been running thugs, facists, hitmen & worse for years & years & years? You really think that this is the first time the CIA/military/govt has engaged in torture? You think that the CIA hasn’t been running guns & drugs & women & kids for years???Please: bust your cherry & stop being so damn naive.
Where’s the next whiskey bar, damnit!
paintitblack: Oh, quit whining.
“We Have Met The Enemy, And He Is Us,” to quote Walt Kelly. If this country didn’t agree with what the CIA has done/is doing, we would stop it. We don’t, because we as a nation believe we are privileged, “outside of history,” and otherwise entitled to hog the world’s resources to support our lifestyles — which includes “ironic,” “detached” and whining blogging.
The bottom line is that most Americans Simply Don’t Care — at least, until Something Goes Wrong.
One of the best lines I ever read about the Vietnam War was the response of a field-grade US Army officer gave to a liberal who asked, “What were we doing over there?” The officer responded, “You tell me: After all, you [the American people] sent me.”
Finally, if you are going to reference Sisyphus, it might be better to spell his name correctly. But either way, the last line of Camus’s story about covers it: “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.”
(Yeah, yeah, I know: “That asshole Neilist.” You can whine about that next.)
So, he set up a secret assassin ring AND personally instructed the CIA to lie to congress? Constitution shmonstitution. As long as we keep the ‘muricans safe, right?
And on that note, I like many here will stop reading the news for the day and go do something mindless. There is no amount of outrage left for the crimes that have been committed, thus I’ll take a deep breath and move on as always.
paintitblack: just wait until Bush administration flunkies become the powers that be in the Bristol Palin administration. The assholes who ran things from ‘01-’08 didn’t come from nowhere. Cheney, Rumsfeld, John Roberts (law clerk to Nixon White House lawyer & later CJ Rehnquist) were Nixon retreads who learned from previous mistakes. Tighten the circle, deny like hell. Win reelection. Literally tell the people to “go fuck themselves” when challenged. Also, they were beaten by dead guys in elections (Ashcroft) and suddenly available for more important positions. Next time, they’ll just go back to the ol’ Bush playbook, claim that the Prez’nit Bristol is the law and paper the shit out of the file to justify their “good faith” claim.
disgustedcitizen: Come to think of it, I have never seen them in the same room at the same time.
does this mean i need to read dan brown now?
Good news everyone. The Republicans are saying that this was just a think tank thing that never went anywhere, which is why Panetta had to shut it down immediately and report it to congress after 8 years of supposedly never carrying out any actions.
Either Cheney is responsible for a massive violation of the law and of the Constitution, or he was massively incompetent and kept this program alive for eight years of doing nothing. Personally, when it comes to Cheney, the more evil solution almost always is the right one.
pat robertsons personal trainer: ‘zackly. makes my head hurt, esp when folks I know start cry-yi-yi-ying about how the big baaaad eeevul libruls is bein’ all mean & stuff to po sweet lil ole darlin’ Bible Spice. I haven’t decided whether that thick-as-a-brick greed-head really gets whaddup, or if she’s just innit fer the munies. Either way, it’s crapulous if she manages to win (which, if the thugs reeeely want it, they’ll fix it, even if it’s as obvious as the Iran clerics: think they aren’t taking notes from that bait & switch operation??? sheesh “the Family” is jealous as shit over that sweet highway robbery) bc it’ll jes be like W - someone else’ll be yankin’ her puppet strings & she won’t give a shit bc she’ll have all her purty clothes to parade her skanky ass around in. Sheesh…. bummer. Show me da way ta the next whiskey bar, quick!!!!
Neilist: I engage in lots of snark & scorn here. I mostly agree w/what you are saying. But the frustration is that those of us who don’t wish to be stupid & ignore what’s going on & see reality for what it really is (which is: fucked up) need to vent & let off a little steam once in a while. Perhaps you should chill out & give me a break. I’m dyslexic, so sue me if I mis-spell words here & there. At least I’ve read Camus, which is more than most can say.
paintitblack:.Neilist: The reason we are here - mrather than Firedoglake or somplace like that is that we prefer to snark/complain rather than engage in essentially futile efforts to change things. Me I’m saving mt pennies and moving to Argentina. Not that it’s less fucked up (more maybe) but I don’t own that fuckup so it does not bother me as much. Also cheap real estate, beautiful women, good drugs. Too I like the horses.
Well I woke up this morning and I got myself a beer
The CIA reconstituted their formula for making Castro’s beard fall out. They spent several years planning a delivery system to the Muslim world, training dilligently and puzzling out scenarios.
There’s a lot of hair over there.
x111e7thst: Put your glasses on, your spelling will improve.
You know what else was “never fully operational”? Dick “Compensating For Something” Cheney’s Cock.
That might explain his need to form Secret CIA Death Squads, and his insatiable need to blow shit up and torture people…
…Just Sayin’ ™®©
x111e7thst: Will your glasses help my spelling?
Know why it “never became fully operational”? Because it was hidden under the same bullshit umbrella of Continuity of Government as the massive domestic surveillance program.
Meaning, it wouldn’t be “fully operational” by definition until someone blew up the White House, but it was still “operational enough” that it gave Cheney free rein to assassinate international enemies and spy on domestic enemies.
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/07/23/new_churchcomm/print.html
I miss the days when “continuity of government” just meant digging holes in mountains. Also, selecting fertile women for their stimulating sexual characteristics.
LoweredPeninsula: Hey, Jim…Peninsula and I would appreciate if you could add a *deathstar* tag to this item. Thanks.
Paul Wellstone
Ken Lay
The DC Madam
I’m sure the list of those who would have brought shame or accountability to the Party goes on and on.
Blame the Dickster all you want but Bush was boss.
Introduce the boy to the Texas justice he loved so much.
honkyman: Good Morning Wonketteers! I’ll skip the beer until I can sneak a Tsingtao or Bitter at lunch, but I have to ask - is Cheney working on some sort of Supervillian-career? Really now, at this rate, he’ll be on the billboards for that new G.I. Joe picture!
I see on the morning news-feeds that Fox has caught up with Cheney at home for a quick chat about it…
What is Treadstone?
hobospacejunkie:
I see a red door and I want it painted black
No colors anymore I want them to turn black
The B52 ‘errant’ nukes, USMilSpec anthrax, 7/7 London bombings, Madrid train bombings?
We know about JFK, how about the new info on RFK & the others?
Keep your eyes on the road your hands upon the wheel
The future’s uncertain & the end is always near
The Rock by Harry Chapin ~
Your all wrong. This is the secret CIA time travel program. Did you really thing George won those two elections the first dozen runs through the timeline> Why do you think Cheney had a man-sized “safe” in his office to begin with?
Once again, the liberal MSM thumps on Cheney to attempt to divert us the fact that Sotomayor thinks in Puerto Rican, hates the Constitution and uses Anglos as her houseboys.
My current favorite Secret Band of Assassins movie is “Shooter” (2007) with Marky Mark Wahlberg as Bob Lee Swagger. Notable for a brilliant cameo by Levon Helm.
Until the New York Times finds out more, I’m just holed up here watching the movie over and over, looking for more clues. If they come for me, I’ve got land mines and trip wires, not to mention the Nikola Tesla Vacuum Death Ray.
Jest sayin’.
Why does God love Barack Obama so much? This is going to dominate the rest of the summer. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Sotomayor gets confirmed, health care gets passed and cap&trade becomes a reality. Brilliant.
ivenson: Yes, a “Death Star” tag is definitely in order, Jim.
Welcome to the United Snakes of American.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/07/12/us/politics/12intel_600.jpg
Felix Dzerzhinsky, head of the Cheka (predecessor to the KGB), underwent a similar scandal in 1922 when members of the Supreme Soviet learned that he had hidden a secret surveillance program from them. He then had them liquidated.
So you see, little libtards and whiny Collectivistas, our Supreme Leader, Mister President Absolute Leader Cheney, kept you in the dark for your own good. Otherwise certain unfortunate and messy measures would have followed. Not that they still wouldn’t have been secret.
History is written by the victors, not dead intellectuals.
http://images.absoluteastronomy.com/images/encyclopediaimages/n/nk/nkvd1936.jpg
How is Cheney’s health these days? Is his heart holding up ok? Because the Bush family was running stuff before little Dickie was out of pettycoats, and they probs intend to be running stuff long after Mary Cheney and Heather Poe have a marriage that’s recognized everywhere but the deep south. Also.
chascates: Before hanging up, Lord Cheney said, “Your phone has been traced.”
zhubajie: Until they find out that they are on the list, which for dome nutty reason overlaps with the No Fly List or anyone: with foreign car that is not a BMW,a Lexux or a Benz, with more than a nine handicap, or not a Promise Giver.
Snarkfest: Condor.
x111e7thst: I’ve also considered moving to Argentina. My wife is from there. If Gramps and Winky had won the election, I’d probably be there now.
x111e7thst: “How is Cheney’s health these days?”
Ask his Secret Service detachment.
stanpan: <>
Why do hate quitters?
BTW: According to the Bush family, Paraguay is the new Argentina,
S.Luggo: Well, given the fact that Cheney has the clearance to not just to harvest the organs of pre-teens, but also their souls, I’d guess that his health is pretty good. I’d reckon the man is probably somewhere along the lines of thousand years old. With each soul transfer, though, it doesn’t stick to the body as well, so he may be coming up on his end unless they can input his sould into some kind of computer from which he could live and rule the world, forever.
Bearbloke: Cheney acts so much like a comic book villain that I think he must actually have gone to them for inspiration: What’s Magneto up to now? Using a gravitational lens to focus solar flare energy to destroy newborn puppies? Damn, I gotta try me some of that!
LoweredPeninsula:
You have disclosed certain secrets, revealed not even to Congress, which have kept us free from Islamo-terrorists, vampires, zombies, chainsaw killers, socialists, Log Cabin Republicans and Mexicans.
Check under your car each morning before you go to work.
A. Friend
We are all shot in the face now.
PopeyesPipe:
Princess Di was murdered by lizard men from Atlantis. Everybody knows that.
TJBeck:
“What is Treadstone?”
Jason Bourne: Operation Treadstone
A Robert Ludlum CIA novel which Cheney used to develop his own super sexy intel network, in that fantasy is easier to adopt fantasy than what comes from tedious research and fact.
artbot2000: No number of lizard men can protect the Dark Lord now.
I don’t think they’ll ever tell the public about what this secret program is/was. Maybe it was a program where simply knowing what the program was about would kill you.
CIA Aide: “Mr. Manetta, I’ve read the reports for this new program.”
Manetta: “And?”
CIA Aide: (Spontaneously implodes)
Manetta: “CANCEL THAT!”
* I mean “Panetta”
theo: That link doesn’t work. Try this one: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/07/23/new_churchcomm/index.html
dijetlo: No, they’d attempt to kill all the Chinese to liberate the Tibetans, but kill all of them in the process, too.
And the worst is yet to come:
“Obama Science Advisor Called For “Planetary Regime” To Enforce Totalitarian Population Control Measures ”
“President Obama’s top science and technology advisor John P. Holdren co-authored a 1977 book in which he advocated the formation of a “planetary regime” that would use a “global police force” to enforce totalitarian measures of population control, including forced abortions, mass sterilization programs conducted via the food and water supply, as well as mandatory bodily implants that would prevent couples from having children.”
So the only thing left for our Socialist Muslin overlords is a race of animal-human hybrids that will do their bidding to raise taxes, force gay marriages, and institute a world currency:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDiKsstR5M0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.prisonplanet.com%2Fvideo-medvedev-shows-off-world-currency-coin.html&feature=player_embedded
Game over.
So who is brave enough to attach the flaming bag of dogshit to Cheney’s front door?
Revelations may be interpreted differently by neocons:
On the “Cheney Didn’t Tell Us” Lie
Facts are troublesome things for the Democrats
“I’m on record that this story is a distraction designed to take the heat off Nancy Pelosi lying about and smearing the CIA. It is also a distraction for conservatives who tend to focus on national security issues instead of things like socialized healthcare.
Nonetheless, while Democrats are screaming that evil Dick Cheney did not tell them about a CIA program, the former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency says Congress did know about it.”
http://www.redstate.com/
Neilist: If this country didn’t agree with what the CIA has done/is doing, we would stop it. We don’t, because we as a nation believe we are privileged, “outside of history,” and otherwise entitled to hog the world’s resources to support our lifestyles — which includes “ironic,” “detached” and whining blogging.
This sounds suspiciously like a “we get the government we deserve” argument, which implies that all desired choices are available to us when we go to vote, which is patently not the case. Many people voted for Obama expecting him to fight to give health care coverage to all Americans, to re-regulate the financial industry, to institute our first national energy policy and for it to lean heavily toward the green side, to raise taxes on the wealthiest after the obscene break W gave them, to end DOMA, etc.
So what after eight years he’s accomplished none of this? Is this the government we deserve? And what exactly are we supposed to do to expose, punish and possibly close the CIA, when huge parts of their budget and operations are known to only a very few people? We have an unresponsive representative democracy which ignores the fact that overwhelming percentages of people favor ending Don’t Ask/Don’t Tell, re-regulating the financial industry, reforming energy policy and health care, etc. Our government responds instead to piles of money from Goldman Sachs and others on Wall Street, to a few health care conglomerates in Tennessee, and to a cadre of entrenched bigots in the military. Is this the government we deserve?
S.Luggo: What? You mean to tell me that Cheney’s official and formal status as a soul reaper and American Angel of Death was one of the “known unknowns” that we weren’t supposed to talk about? My bad; I just pulled a Biden, meaning that I didn’t do it intentionally, so perhaps I can hope for some kind of amnesty from the Dark Lord of the Sith, Dick Cheney.
Damnit! There I go, again revealing more secrets.
memzilla: THAT, of course, is why the press never printed unverifiable information from “anonymous senior administration officials” about WMD in Iraq. The MSM carefully researched these claims, found them to be lacking, and thank goodness, decided against helping a dishonest and corrupt administration with its fearmongering and war drumming.
Yay, media! Way to go, guys!
hobospacejunkie: I don’t want to bore everyone with a debate. But, yes, “we” do “get the government we deserve.”
It has been that way throughout history, and certainly the history of this country. Even during the Revolutionary War period, the best estimates are that about 30 percent of the country was pro-Revolutionary; 30 percent Loyalist; and 40 percent “I Don’t Give A Ye Olde Shitte.”
[And a substantial portion of the 30 percent of the pro-Revolutionary camp only got interested when the British offered to free any slaves who would fight for the Crown. Nothing was more guaranteed to get all those “freedom loving” Southerners like Washington, Jefferson, etc. thinking about “self-evident truths” than the idea that their negros were going to go free.)
If you explained, rationally and intelligently, to the Body Politic, what a “fair distribution” of the World’s wealth/resources would mean to Americans — e.g., little or no meat consumption; mass transit rather than cars; strict population control as per China; NO WASTING TIME BLOGGING - the majority of voters would immediately and willingly vote for a Secret Band of Assassins or whatever it was that caused Panetta to crap in his pants.
But let’s not argue. The way human beings operate as a species, under natural selection, means that global warming, population pressure and resource wars are going to lead to a massive population die-off in the foreseeable future, e.g., between 40 to 60 years (if not sooner). This is a “natural process,” and is “perfectly normal.”
I don’t have children, or nieces/nephews. Nor do I want any: Why help propigate this species. At most, I want a nice seat when the fireworks start.
Never mind that “Not with a bang, but with a whimper” stuff. I want to see a whole series of 150 kiloton airbursts. Why let all those warheads go to waste? (The Atmospheric Test Ban Treaty RUINED EVERYTHING!!!)
you cannot be serious: The noon newscast tells me Attorney General Holder is considering tackling the whole Bush/Cheney war-crimes bugaboo… well, I hope he’s careful how, where, when and with whom he travels - it seems the ReThuglican war-criminals will stop at nothing…
Bearbloke: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/attorney-general
God, what a bunch of fucking cowards. Look, I understand the way that playing nice in politics works. But what a goddamn bunch of pussies.
“Mr. Obama has been eager not to put himself at odds with the military and intelligence agencies. He visited C.I.A. headquarters early in his presidency and blocked the release of photographs of prisoner abuse, saying they could inflame people in Iraq and Afghanistan and endanger American troops.”
Why? To avoid a fucking coup? You’re the goddamn POTUS, grow a fucking pair. These people acted with complete impunity from the law, all of them. And we’re going to play nice with them… why exactly?
It’s amazing how our elected officials are all about bringing criminals to justice, unless the criminals are among their ranks, in which case, the tune change to the “look forward, not back” bullshit that I’m so used to hearing. These fucktards dragged the country through a circus over a blowjob and a cunt-soaked cigar, but when it comes to a complete and utter disregard for Constitutional law, when it comes to shitting on the basic human rights that our nation has been famous for, if not always upholding in every situation, at least promoting, then that’s when we should look away, look forward, and heal? Right, healing. The Hague is for Jews, Slavic Muslims, and brown people. We’re just so above that whole “justice” thing.
Um. Trucknutz, I guess.
AnnieGetYourFun: What this country needs is a good cunt-soaked cigar…
AnnieGetYourFun: [quote]These fucktards dragged the country through a circus over a blowjob and a cunt-soaked cigar, but when it comes to a complete and utter disregard for Constitutional law, when it comes to shitting on the basic human rights that our nation has been famous for, if not always upholding in every situation, at least promoting, then that’s when we should look away, look forward, and heal? Right, healing. The Hague is for Jews, Slavic Muslims, and brown people. We’re just so above that whole “justice” thing.[/quote]
A-fuckin’-men, Annie. Oh, and a thumbs-up for the reference of a “cunt-soaked cigar”. Now, it belongs to the ages.
AnnieGetYourFun: I took the liberty of posting your brilliantly indignant screed to the comments of that NYT story. I apologize for not asking your permission. I did remove the more colorful adjectives. My aim is not to claim credit for your writing but rather to get what you wrote in there as the first comment. I hope you are not angry with me over this. If so, I will make it up to you somehow.
AnnieGetYourFun: Nailed it. I am in awe.
Why is the media talking about investigating the CIA over the latest revelation of Cheney’s crimes? It is time to send in a black helicopter with a SWAT team at 3am, taser him into submission, and drag him off to be waterboarded until he confesses. The whole thing should take less than an hour, and then we can lock him up and forget about him.
Neilist: Your grasp of American history is breathtaking…
I think we all forgot that there was ever a guy named George Bush who was supposedly running things.
Manos: Hands of Fate: Never forget! Wait, George who?
hobospacejunkie: Thanks, actually, I’m flattered. I was pretty hammered when I wrote it, so it’s nice to think that I said anything that anyone understood.
Neilist is just reacting appropriately to en embarrasing outbreak of genuine, naive moral outrage.
Quite frankly, I find it absurd that the state of over-lawyering in this country has reached the point where, well, if we know a member of al queada is in Algiers, we can’t send someone who knows how to do these things to Algiers to make said person disappear.
Is someone saying that this is not what we have been doing since the beginning of the cold war? Isn’t this what spies are for?
The Iraq war was the crime, this, this is the appropriate response to an attack by a small scattered conspiracy, track them down and kill them.
Prommie: The thing is we are doing this and everyone knows we are. We do it with drones in the tribal belt on the Afghan border. We do it with soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan, we do (or did) it with Delta Force(or similar) in Iran and Somalia. We had a whole rendition program that grabbed people (often the wrong ones) off the street in many parts of the world. What I don’t see is why this program which seems merely to replicate others we do know about would have to be kept so much more secret.
x111e7thst: Seriously, because someone would scream and someone would faint at the horror and injustice of it, and someone would sue and someone would demand prosecutions. Same reason our hit squads have always, always been very very secret.
Prommie: PESHAWAR, Pakistan (Reuters) - U.S. drones attacked militants in northwest Pakistan twice on Wednesday, killing more than 40 fighters, security officials said, while the army said the Taliban chief in Swat had been wounded. (Wed Jul 8, 2009 7:45pm EDT).
So we killed 40 people (”fighters”) in the sovereign nation of Pakistan recently, and it’s in the news very soon after it happened. I hear no outcry, I see no screaming or fainting. No one is calling for the drone-operator to be prosecuted or even investigated. Our hit squads are quite public, at least in this case.
Word is, Cheney’s extended an invitation to the CIA and NYT to go hunting.
AnnieGetYourFun: Today we are all cunt-soaked cigars.
imissopus: Thank you. I was hoping it would come to that.
Mahousu: Actually my ‘joke’ was a bit ‘mangled’ (?), but I meant that both weren’t surprising/obvious once stated..
Smoke Filled Roommate: Oh, I knew that; I was just trying to do a level-up on your joke.
Which is admittedly unfair, since all we’re supposed to be doing is calling balls and strikes.
Mahousu: Yep. I got the balls.. You got the strikes.
x111e7thst:
Judge, jury, & executioner.
Just bribe the locals to place those RFID housewarming chips.
They sure do count & ID the murdered quick to get that propaganda metric out.
Tillman, with a 3 shot group in the forehead?
Benazir Bhutto?