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WHAT IS SOCIALISM?

Smarter Bush Brother Gives Interview

Tortured soul, obvs.Jeb Bush, the slightly less odious brother of former President George W. Bush, delighted the nation when he revealed he wouldn’t be running for Florida’s open Senate seat because huzzah, an election without Bushes! But even if he’s skipping the rounds for 2010, might he have bigger ambitions in mind for 2012?

Here is the thing: no Republican who is actually serious about getting elected president would possibly entertain the idea of running in 2012. Right? It’s just not that easy to knock out an incumbent president, even if that person has just sucked wildly from day 1 (see the 2004 election for more details).

Plus Bush says in this Esquire interview with die-hard Wonkette fan Tucker Carlson that he wasn’t interested in running for president in 2008, anyhow, and “Frankly I don’t wake up each day assuming I’m the solution to life’s problems.”

He also says, regarding socialism:

Define socialism for me. It’s a word… I believe he’s a collectivist. He believes that through collective action, through government, you can solve more problems. [...] Socialism is pejorative in America, so people stop listening. People are tired of it. That word won’t stick. It’s a turnoff. It doesn’t help.

Well, fine. Best quote of the interview comes from the interviewer: “[A]fter two years out of the governor’s mansion, Bush seems a little out of practice at this interview business.” Yeah! You don’t want to sound reasonable in these interview things, for God’s sake.

Jeb Bush: The Future of the Republican Party [Esquire]


10:21 AM on Thu July 9 2009
By Sara K. Smith
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  1. shypixel2 says at 10:26 am, July 9th, 2009

    Unrelated: I tried to enter Jeb Bush as my name for a high score on one of those bar-top game machines…

    It was rejected.

    Diebold not doing its job?

  2. Buzz Feedback says at 10:27 am, July 9th, 2009

    Aren’t we done with these fukkers yet?

  3. SeminoleInDior says at 10:30 am, July 9th, 2009

    I will work for any campaign running against Jebbie, but he’s not totally horrible. He used to always stop by my desk at the Legislature to make sure I was doing okay in school since I worked so stinkin’ much. He’s a nice guy.

    It’s just a bummer that he’s a Republican and related to G-Dub. Otherwise, I may have voted for the guy simply because he can be downright reasonable.

  4. Brendan M. says at 10:30 am, July 9th, 2009

    I’m pretty sure that Marvin Bush, whose company provided security to both the World Trade Center and United Airlines (great job!), is the smartest brother, and Robin Bush is the smartest sibling overall.

  5. snideinplainsight says at 10:31 am, July 9th, 2009

    It’s freakin’ scary - Jeb’s quote about socialism actually makes sense to me. Maybe he’s using some kind of Cheney mind trick on us.

  6. finallyhappy says at 10:32 am, July 9th, 2009

    hey, someone call me when we get to Mark Sanford

  7. memzilla says at 10:34 am, July 9th, 2009

    Sure, Jeb believes collectivism is bad… except when it comes to collecting my NYC-generated tax dollars to pay for hurricane relief for Floridians, people who live in a state that’s about three feet above MSL. Then it’s “Pay Me, FEMA!” time.

    Go suck a peninsula, Jeb.

  8. hobospacejunkie says at 10:36 am, July 9th, 2009

    Frankly, no one these days wakes up thinking anyone named Bush is the solution to any problem. Unless the problem is W not being on trial in the Hague, and the solution is renditioning him there extraordinarily.

  9. Clancy_Pants says at 10:36 am, July 9th, 2009

    Brendan M.: Ranking degrees of smartness in this bunch is like deciding which turd stinks the least. Mustn’t forget Neil “breached his fiduciary duties involving multiple conflicts of interest” Bush. Still the fan favorite for those of us driving past the old Silverado Savings building every day.

  10. snideinplainsight says at 10:40 am, July 9th, 2009

    My favorite bush isn’t any one of these [rolls eyes, shakes head] -

  11. norbizness says at 10:41 am, July 9th, 2009

    I never do this, but that picture compels me to type ADULT BUTT-HEAD HAZ A SAD.

    Plus, we all know that Neil “Thai Hooker Embezzelement” Bush is the only person clearly qualified for a GOP leadership position.

  12. hobospacejunkie says at 10:44 am, July 9th, 2009

    Regardless, it doesn’t help anyone for Jeb to be sounding rational in the face of his party’s implosion. But he still has much to answer for re: his deliverance of FL to W in 2000, no matter how reasonable he may sound these days. His family has poisoned the politics of US America and would do well to leave us the fuck alone forever.

  13. x111e7thst says at 10:45 am, July 9th, 2009

    I last payed attention to this assclown a while ago, but when I did he was of the opinion that it was not necessary to teach about abortion “If we have moral absolutes” and he was resolutely against hate crime status for attacks on gays. His position on these issues may have changed in the intervening years but I doubt it. This guy may be smarter than his dumb as dirt brother but he is no better.

  14. riverside68 says at 10:48 am, July 9th, 2009

    Clancy_Pants: Neil of the “no interest, no payments, loan?” I am still looking for one of those loans. If the sub-primes had those terms then we would not have a default problem. I think Neil is a pretty bright guy, finance wise.

  15. AlexisHidell says at 10:48 am, July 9th, 2009

    The only reason we got W for 8 years and not Jebbie is that Jebbie has a Mexirican wife. Not getting to be President was his punishment for giving Barbara Bush “brown babies” for grandchildren.

  16. It all makes sense now. The entire eight years of George W. Bush was a cleverly-designed plan to get Jeb Bush into the White House. All he has to do is go in front of a big crowd and do simple math problems, and the GOP will start swooning. “Dubbya was stupid! Jeb is smart! Instawin!”

  17. Bypartizoa says at 10:52 am, July 9th, 2009

    If he’s even sounding slightly reasonable, he’ll never get through the Republican primaries.

  18. rereridiculous says at 10:53 am, July 9th, 2009

    If he becomes president, then the right hast to finally stop citing Horatio Alger as their main source on class mobility.
    Also, third Bush the charm, also?

  19. Pirate King of the Jews says at 10:55 am, July 9th, 2009

    I’m pretty sure bush is the solution to at least one of my problems, but probably not Jeb.

  20. ManchuCandidate says at 10:56 am, July 9th, 2009

    Isn’t it about time that US America does a Brazilian bikini wax on the Bush family?

  21. bored with gravity says at 10:57 am, July 9th, 2009

    SeminoleInDior: Don’t be taken in. He is a Bush, therefore flawed, and can eat a bag of dicks as far as I’m concerned. Also.

  22. zenferret says at 10:57 am, July 9th, 2009

    AlexisHidell: Well that Jebbie won the race for Gov when Jeb failed the first time out.

    If Jeb had won in 1994 then in 2000 he would have had 5 years as gov and run for pres. He lost in 94 but won in 98 so with less than 2 years he had to let Dubya who did win in 1994 make the Pres run.

    So I really really hate Florida even more. I think.

    Well no its Texas I hate more.

  23. zenferret says at 10:59 am, July 9th, 2009

    Pirate King of the Jews: Offer Noelle some drugs. It might work.

  24. snideinplainsight says at 10:59 am, July 9th, 2009

    On the other hand, Caribou Barbie is gonna totally wax this guy in the primary - she doesn’t rent, she OWNS (all the wingtards).

  25. Capitol Hillbilly says at 11:00 am, July 9th, 2009

    Get outta here Jeb. I’m holding out for this guy:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWidr0Uwj8E

  26. zenferret says at 11:07 am, July 9th, 2009

    Capitol Hillbilly: Four wheelin’ on the White House Lawn!!! Woo hoo!!!!

  27. To say he’s the smartest of the Bush boys is akin to being, to paraphrase the late, great Mike Royko, the tallest midget in the circus.

  28. Shakin’ the bushes, boss.

  29. Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas says at 11:11 am, July 9th, 2009

    AlexisHidell: EXACTLY! The white trash base won’t vote for a man with a Latina wife…also the son, George P Bush, is just way too gay and the daughter loves coke.

  30. paintitblack says at 11:12 am, July 9th, 2009

    No thanks. No more Bush is my solution. Don’t trust any of ‘em assclowns. If nothing else: guilt by association. Get offa my lawn, pool boy!

  31. Cicada says at 11:16 am, July 9th, 2009

    This country will not be satisfied until Jeb Bush has another chance to screw Terry Schiavo’s corpse for political gain. Sarah Palin should probably keep Trig close by whenever he’s around, just in case.

  32. GDuvall says at 11:19 am, July 9th, 2009

    “He believes that through collective action, through government, you can solve more problems.”

    Isn’t that the definition of anyone that isn’t an anarchist?

  33. freakishlystrong says at 11:23 am, July 9th, 2009

    Yeah, is this the same Jeb who wanted to start a shadow government to obstruct all of Obama’a policies? It is? Suck it Jeb.

  34. June Cleaver 2.0 says at 11:28 am, July 9th, 2009

    I was not impressed. He said the same incompetent Republican things, but in a business-like tone. He wants to SOUND reasonable, but how is he reasonable when he, on the one hand, knows that screaming and yelling at hispanics is dumb, but yet says that Limbaugh is an important voice for conservatives. That is quite dissonant. He doesn’t want to call Obama a socialist, but then he was an obvious hack about Obama’s “secret.” Please. It’s his base that is out of touch. That will remain a problem for the Repubs, even the so-called smart ones.

  35. rereridiculous says at 11:30 am, July 9th, 2009

    GDuvall: Shut up, commie!

  36. Oldskool says at 11:31 am, July 9th, 2009

    Is it possible to sue the vagina of Barbara Bush? There needs to be some accountability, godammit.

  37. S.Luggo says at 11:33 am, July 9th, 2009

    I read the interview. And Jebbo is supposed to be the smart one? If so, this puts “smart” into the pantheon of empty phrases and terms, such as “new and improved”, “activist judge”, “virtually painless” and “compassionate conservative”. “I’ll call you in the morning”, also.

  38. Unindicted Co-Conspirator says at 11:39 am, July 9th, 2009

    snideinplainsight:
    I’d rather look at her bush that any other Bush!

  39. Johnny Zhivago says at 11:40 am, July 9th, 2009

    There ought to be a constitutional ammendment - NO MORE BUSHES!

  40. Prommie says at 11:42 am, July 9th, 2009

    We were warned, explicitly, “STAY OUT DA BUSHES.”

  41. paintitblack says at 11:43 am, July 9th, 2009

    TGY: Ha! What we have here is a failure to communicate…

  42. NebraskashireGentry says at 11:45 am, July 9th, 2009

    Buzz Feedback: would it be possible to form a society that would safeguard the American presidency from Bushes and their descendants?

    it would be called “No Bushes” (in Latin), have a singular purpose and recruit future generations to the cause into perpetuity…kind of like the ex-Templar brothers in “Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade” that protected the Holy Grail from decidedly unworthy seekers.

  43. Hooray For Anything says at 11:51 am, July 9th, 2009

    I can see his campaign slogan now “Jeb Bush- Not as Incompetent as His Brother”

    But seriously, if I have to live in a world in which I see a photo of George HW wearing one of his stupid “41″ hats, W. with his stupid “43″ hat and Jeb wearing a hat saying “45″ while playing golf I will seriously quit this country.

  44. S.Luggo says at 11:52 am, July 9th, 2009

    June Cleaver 2.0: “I’m not saying abandon our principles. To the contrary: Find creative ways of expressing the principles.”

    Instead of “War in Iraq” say “bringing democracy to the Middle East”; instead of “Hurricane Katina” say “event of increased precipitation”.

  45. schvitzatura says at 11:53 am, July 9th, 2009

    Jeb, with that line of thinking, the entire “collectivist” armed forces of these here Yewknighted Estates should GO GALT!

    Everyone go buy a collectivist-manufactured hamburger, with a debased (”clipped”) gold eagle Amero, CELEBRATE THE RELOVEUCCIONE!

  46. Mad Brahms says at 11:53 am, July 9th, 2009

    Well, at least he recognizes the idiocy of yelling “socialism” about every government policy, ever, even he’s still a little off as to what “collectivism” is. It makes you wonder if his statement about Limbaugh is just a sop to him, more an acknowledgment of Limbaugh’s status as potential kingmaker than an endorsement of his perspectives. Still, I think the Bush dynasty may be tapped out - one unspectacular president and one spectacularly awful one will ruin the good name of your family, no matter how many beltway connections you have.

  47. Canmon (the Inadequate) says at 11:55 am, July 9th, 2009

    George W. sounded reasonable before he got the presidency. As an aside John Ellis “Jeb” Bush was the inspiration for Goeorge Oscar “GOB” Bluth II.

  48. DeLand DeLakes says at 11:55 am, July 9th, 2009

    SeminoleInDior: Unless you happen to be a blastocyst or a braindead woman, then you’ll have to get a restraining order to keep the fucker off of you.

  49. Crazybroad says at 11:56 am, July 9th, 2009

    Bypartizoa: It’s precisely because he sounds slightly reasonable that he won’t make it through the Republican primaries.

  50. widget09 says at 11:57 am, July 9th, 2009

    I prefer Bushes around the white house, not inside of it. Has Brother Jebadiah Bush been annointed by god like brother George? He is no doubt better than the Alaskan grifter and “magic underwear” Romney. Hopefully, he has a few skeletons in the closet that havn’t “come out” yet.

  51. Where’s his birth certificate? Are you sure he’s a Bush? ‘Cause he’s making waaaaay too much sense.

  52. paintitblack says at 11:59 am, July 9th, 2009

    Mad Brahms: I’d like to think that you’re right, but the “Animal Farm” inhabitants of conservaworld seem to see rightwing abject miserable failure - aka Snowbilly Grifta from Wasilla - as a total WIN!!! So not so sure that the Gee Oh Pee is “done” w/Casa de Bush, sad to say.

  53. Dinner Dad says at 11:59 am, July 9th, 2009

    “I’m reading a wild book. It’s The Singularity Is Near.The book is about how technology is going to overtake the human mind.”

    Jeb Bush/Cory Doctorow 2012!

  54. Cape Clod says at 12:01 pm, July 9th, 2009

    If he really is the “Smart One” he will hold of until 2016 and after Snowbilly’s Goldwater sized fail in 2012.

  55. schvitzatura says at 12:06 pm, July 9th, 2009

    NebraskashireGentry: Non Frutex (or plural Fruticis).

    If the conjugation/voice is wrong, I promise to write any corrections on a large marble ediface in D.C. of the Latin linguist’s chosing…in red paint.

    Also, another Voyager-like probe needs to be sent (with universal symbolic notation, on a solid gold record of MJ’s Off The Wall) warning about the presence of genetic effluvia of the Bush clan in this spiral arm of the Milky Way…just to make sure.

  56. thefrontpage says at 12:10 pm, July 9th, 2009

    Jeb Bush has told The Washington Globe that he plans to run for President in 2012, with George Allen as his running mate. He said that if he is elected, he will nominate Sarah Palin as Secretary of Energy, Marion Barry as Secretary of Health and Human Services, John Ensign as Secretary of Commerce, Mark Sanford as Secretary of Agriculture, and Larry Craig as the Director of National Intelligence.

  57. WadISay says at 12:15 pm, July 9th, 2009

    I look forward to the day when the word “bush” connotes nothing more for me than pubic hair.

  58. Que miras, cabron! says at 12:18 pm, July 9th, 2009

    Oldskool: Nope. Can’t sue the dead.

  59. ManchuCandidate says at 12:18 pm, July 9th, 2009

    Noticed that Jeb looks a lot like this fellow here:

    http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/en/images/4/4e/Gav.jpg

  60. bumfug says at 12:22 pm, July 9th, 2009

    Oldskool: Suing Barbara Bush’s vagina is a good start but let’s make George H.W. Bush’s nutsack a codefendant.

  61. schvitzatura says at 12:26 pm, July 9th, 2009

    Work It
    Make It
    Do It
    Makes Us
    Harder
    Better
    Faster
    Busher

    and still unelectable, Mr. Smarter.

    (apologies to Guy-Manuel de H.-C. & Tom B.)

  62. bumfug says at 12:26 pm, July 9th, 2009

    Nice picture of Jeb, though - looks like Kevin Meaney (”Get rid of those tight pants, we’re big pants people!”)

  63. populucious says at 12:37 pm, July 9th, 2009

    “Frankly I don’t wake up each day assuming I’m the solution to life’s problems.”

    So who is he cold burning with this statement? Obama or his brother? Or his father? Or anyone who ever had ambition?

  64. magic titty says at 12:37 pm, July 9th, 2009

    rereridiculous: Wasn’t Horatio Alger a pedophile?

    It all makes sense…

  65. It’s just not that easy to knock out an incumbent president, even if that person has just sucked wildly from day 1

    The exception that proves the rule would be his father in 1992. My guess is that he sees that example as reason to eventually run. He must get troopers to bring him women and how to force women into giving him blow jobs to have the kind of street cred that helped Clinton take down his dad.

  66. Suds McKenzie says at 12:53 pm, July 9th, 2009

    He has totally morphed into Vincent D’Onofrio from Criminal Intent.

  67. Failed 2 Menace says at 12:58 pm, July 9th, 2009

    When Jeb’s exploratory folks start beating the bushes, it will be the shortest phone poll in recorded history.

    “Do you remember George W. Bush’s presidency?”

    When 100% of the replies come back negative, time to throw the ol’ hat into the ring.

  68. zenferret says at 1:01 pm, July 9th, 2009

    azw88:

    Johnson 1968
    Carter 1980

  69. El Pinche says at 1:09 pm, July 9th, 2009

    Brainy Bush is toast.

  70. Georgia Burning says at 1:13 pm, July 9th, 2009

    So the repugs are looking for a more reasonable face to divert attention from the clowns and whack jobs and the best they have is another Bush spawn. Amazing how Monty Python material never gets old. I’m in favor of putting the whole Bush clan on a plane with free transport anywhere off the continent provided they never return, like George W did for bin Laden’s family on 9/12. Does Osama have extra room in the cave?

  71. azw88 says at 1:16 pm, July 9th, 2009

    zenferret: I’ll give you Carter, but Johnson didn’t run and technically wasn’t a 1st-termer as he finished Kennedy’s term.

    That being said, it is more ammo for his addled brain to think he can actually win.

  72. sarcasticusername says at 1:38 pm, July 9th, 2009

    exactly what part of this made jeb bush sound “reasonable?” was it the part where he opined about obama trying to implement the super secret agenda that he openly campaigned on? or was it the part where he talks about how popular his brother actually was?

  73. Extemporanus says at 1:38 pm, July 9th, 2009

    Capitol Hillbilly: Is that a name or a directive?

    Also, that guy in the picture up there is the best “Jeb” they could find to replace Buddy Ebsen? Really?!

  74. Accordion-o-rama says at 1:42 pm, July 9th, 2009

    What does Jeb think about the future of the Edsel?

  75. paintitblack says at 1:48 pm, July 9th, 2009

    azw88: I’m so old that I remember watching Johnson on black & white teevee announcing his decision not to run. So doesn’t really count. OTOH, yes on Carter, which is really too bad considering that we ended up w/St. Ronnie.

  76. bitchincamaro says at 2:18 pm, July 9th, 2009

    Instead of reading the interview, I used my allotted time perusing the 53 Beautiful Women Tell Funny Jokes piece. I am not sorry.

  77. 1ofUS says at 2:44 pm, July 9th, 2009

    Jeb is an acronym for “join elite bourgeois.”
    But Marvin is simply maahhhhhvulous. Why can’t we have Marvin. Please?

  78. TeddyS says at 3:10 pm, July 9th, 2009

    Bush? Another President Bush? I run screaming down the halls in fright YEIIAAAHHHHaahhhhhhh!!

  79. sezme says at 3:23 pm, July 9th, 2009

    Jeb’s real name: Lester Odious Bushazw88:

  80. DirtyHarriett says at 4:52 pm, July 9th, 2009

    It was once said, “The only bush you can trust is your own”
    Actually, it was on a flyer during the 2004 election….

  81. Snarkalicious says at 6:29 pm, July 9th, 2009

    Local man perplexed as to whether he wants to be subject the stigma attached to spitting or swallowing. His choice may shock you…tonight at 11!

  82. nader paul kucinich gravel says at 12:50 pm, July 10th, 2009

    Wall street
    Military industrial complex
    Multi-national corporations
    Health insurance pharma complex

    They DO plan to install Jeb into the Presidency!
    DNC & RNC have BOTH sold out the country in order to enrich themselves.

    Gravel Kucinich Paul Nader
    McKinney Ventura too
    perotcharts.com

    The Fed
    AIPAC
    9/11

  83. zhubajie says at 1:48 am, July 11th, 2009

    George the Father, George the Son, Jeb the Holy Ghost.

  84. zhubajie says at 1:50 am, July 11th, 2009

    Clancy_Pants: Went on to peddle influence in exchange for free who*res in Shanghai, too.

  85. zhubajie says at 1:51 am, July 11th, 2009

    I fear that a Bush dynasty is our destiny. Worse, they won’t be anywhere near as cultivated as the Caesars.

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