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Hmm, could this possibly be true? Could that Chicago radio jackass have not undergone a Spiritual Conversion regarding torture after having a stream of water gently poured on his half-covered face for a few seconds? Gawker has salacious details in the form of emails from the guy’s publicist suggesting that this was all “a hoax.”
Best part of the publicist’s email to the person who agrees to hook her up with someone who can do the waterboarding: “We will supply the water.”
Hoax or not, the whole episode was just disgusting dumb pornography that makes the “local news guy gets tasered just to see what it’s like” genre of reporting seem tasteful in comparison.
Did Erich “Mancow” Muller Fake His Waterboarding for Publicity? [Gawker]
Makes one miss the good old days of women coming into the studio and telling listeners about their lesbian experiences.
Maybe during the next ratings sweep he’ll take a golden shower.
Right wing media asshole lies to get ratings on his show…must be Tuesday. Oops, Friday. I’m pretty PO’d at KO though if he had any doubts & went on with the praising of stupid Bovine man.
A shock jock who doesn’t like being shocked — is this a remake of The Story of Ferdinand?
The only way these repubs can switch parties without losing face is to experience a spiritual conversion. It’s way too honest to just admit they were wrong.
Why don’t we just do all our torturing in public, like in the Washington Mall or Times Square or Disneyworld or somewhere? Invite a big crowd, televise it. Would remove the mystery and eliminate the fake Guantanamogasms.
Bretagnelaw: That’s backward. You have spiritual conversions into right-wing nutterdom (you learn to “keep the faith”); you can lose faith and come down to reality and go the other direction. But you can’t have a spiritual conversion to the political left and keep your credibility to the right.
This is because the right wing totally owns the right to the ways and the rules of the world. Ask ‘em.
http://for-the-turnstiles.blogspot.com/
Baba Booey Baba Booey
It’s ok. I faked interest in the story.
I am still looking forward to Mancow’s investigation into whether or not having your fingernails pulled out constitutes torture.
Mancow doesn’t look like he’s faking interest in Slash’s mansnake. Also, he should lay off the coke before going on the teevee. On KO’s show he couldn’t sit still & kept looking around, like the voices in his head were telling him “they know, THEY KNOW!”
The Cow’s new mime:
Neocons of 911 love to fake things…
~ AIPAC’s Federal Reserve entertainment!
ManchuCandidate: The good old days are still here - they just moved to satellite radio.
Mancow is a no-talent assclown who Howard Stern promised he would fist live on the air if he beat in the Chicago ratings. Of course, Howard did beat him, but the live fisting never occurred for some strange reasion.
I’m sorry, but I can’t help but think that this picture looks like Mancow is fondling Slash from Guns & Roses’s erect penis. What?
Yeah, I can believe that they planned a waterboard lite, just in case he actually found it uncomfortable, so that it would be easier to laugh off. But I think he genuinely freaked out over what was done to him, so I’m taking his post-waterboarding claims at face value: he didn’t think it was going to be so bad, but it was horrible and it was torture. The Spiritual Conversion is all the more real given that he had to make such a huge swing from his pre-WB attitude, which included an attempt to cheat.
Now let him show the balls to step forward and state that he didn’t just expect to pass, but that he cheated in an attempt to pass. America loves a remorseful sinner.
“I was merely act-ing!”–Mancow
Hannity starts crying that it wouldn’t have been so bad if they had done it the right way, completely oblivious to the fact that the “right way” acually makes the torture worse, in 5, 4, 3…
Eh — I don’t believe it’s fake. The Gawker piece says that in comparing the Mancow video with the Hitchens waterboarding video that the Hitchens one looks “nightmarish” in comparison. But the creepy stuff is because the two torturers are wearing masks and gloves and Hitchens is tied up (which is probably a typical Friday night for Hitch, but I digress). But the functional parts of the exercise don’t look that imposing — they don’t use very much water on Hitchens, pouring a small amount several times rather than one continuous pour (and the first two pours look like they’re just soaking the towel as a preliminary). Maybe Mancow didn’t think it would be that big a deal, but he and Hitchens both reacted the same way.
Nevertheless, enough doubt has been sown for the “its-a-frat-prank-not-torture” people to latch on to this. Expect them to hold two ideas simultaneously: one that it’s not torture, and probably fun; and two that it’s coercive enough to make the torturee give up useful information.
That’s okay. The real torture victims gave fake confessions too.
Canmon (the Inadequate): That’s really all that needs to be said. WIN.
SayItWithWookies: I think, actually, that the slower pour method they used on Hitchens is the more terrifying because you gradually realize that you’re drowning, as opposed to the Mancow method, where your senses are immediately overwhelmed. The thing is that in BOTH instances, the guys know that it is only a drill, and that they can stop it anytime they want.
My guess is that Mancow thought it would be pretty easy to resist (or at the very least, that he could do it and then CLAIM that it wasn’t that bad, even if it was), and he was completely shocked, on a very visceral level, at how horrible it was.
I don’t think this means it was “fake,” I think its careless nomenclature; any ‘waterboarding” which the torturee is free to end at any time is essentially “fake,” the inability to end it, the lack of control, is the last little aspect of the fear of the experience. And knowing this, and that Mancow himself thought it would be no big deal under such circumstances, I think they all thought it was going to be a joke. And in the video, the dude pours water directly into mancow’s nostrils, and with no cloth covering them, I thought it would be worse that way.
Gawker trying to score a scoop, but its just not there.
To be sure, we need lock Mancow up in a small filthy cell & perform 182 do-overs over the course of a month.
I, for one, wlll not be satisfied until Mancow is drowned in a bathtub by Grover Norquist while Hannity sits nearby masturbating.
Mr Blifil: Can Grover be masturbating also? It’ll sell better on PPV if so, and be far more erotic for me. We could have, simultaneously, two O faces as a result of one D face.
My favorite part of the story is the publicist’s search for a “special ops” professional to perform the waterboarding - who handled the assignment with the skill of a frat boy with a pitcher of beer on hazing night.
Oh noes, does this means he “wins a news cycle”.
OK, Republicans, who’s next up for waterboarding? I can come up with a list of 25 without even trying.
(Keith, you better claim back your $10k)
Can I call this shit or what? On the last post about this nutjob I said he was faking it. You can tell by the video that the water didn’t even go in his month or nose. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUkj9pjx3H0
The guy who was doing the fake water boarding didn’t even pinch Mancows’s nose close for he would have to breath through his mouth.
The stupid radio host only wanted to get on t.v which he did, thanks Olbermann.