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Excerpts have leaked from Charlie Gibson’s first of three interviews with Sarah Palin, which will be aired in some form tonight on his ABC News show. We were expecting a puffy sort of chit-chat, and it mostly is, except for the part where they talk about WAR WITH FREAKING RUSSIA. Now, when you run around saying Georgia and Ukraine should be let into NATO — as both John McCain and Barack Obama do — as some reward for establishing a vaguely democratic government, that’s much more than a harmless platitude — there are actual, real-world implications! No one has really bothered to push McCain or Obama on this, which is why it’s so hilarious that Gibson pushed Palin on it during her first big interview. And she fucked up.
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PALIN: We cannot repeat the Cold War. We are thankful that, under Reagan, we won the Cold War, without a shot fired, also. We’ve learned lessons from that in our relationship with Russia, previously the Soviet Union.
We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it’s in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.
GIBSON: Would you favor putting Georgia and Ukraine in NATO?
PALIN: Ukraine, definitely, yes. Yes, and Georgia.
GIBSON: Because Putin has said he would not tolerate NATO incursion into the Caucasus.
PALIN: Well, you know, the Rose Revolution, the Orange Revolution, those actions have showed us that those democratic nations, I believe, deserve to be in NATO.
Putin thinks otherwise. Obviously, he thinks otherwise, but…
GIBSON: And under the NATO treaty, wouldn’t we then have to go to war if Russia went into Georgia?
PALIN: Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you’re going to be expected to be called upon and help.
But NATO, I think, should include Ukraine, definitely, at this point and I think that we need to — especially with new leadership coming in on January 20, being sworn on, on either ticket, we have got to make sure that we strengthen our allies, our ties with each one of those NATO members.
We have got to make sure that that is the group that can be counted upon to defend one another in a very dangerous world today.
To be fair, no one has any fucking clue what to do about Russia, except that We Must Do Something To Stop Them. But when you’re asked in an interview under any circumstances whether we’ll have to go to War with Russia, you should never respond “Perhaps so,” BECAUSE WAR WITH RUSSIA WOULD BE THE WORST THING IMAGINABLE. It may be the logical outcome of all this NATO-expansion, rub-it-in-Russia’s-nose B.S. people throw around so willingly, but you’re not supposed to let anyone know that, Palin! Even John McCain — who would love nothing more than a full ground siege of fucking Moscow, it would be the culmination of years of wet dreams — would not have said “Perhaps so”; he’d have something like, “not war, but we must contain the Czar.” And there would be no follow-ups because John McCain is a War Hero and honorable.
So yeah, ouch. In Sarah Palin’s first basic interview, Charlie Gibson got her to talk up WAR WITH RUSSIA without even breaking a sweat. Practice practice practice, Sarah!
Charles Gibson Interviews Sarah Palin [ABC News]
Also, was I just hearing what I wanted to hear, or did she totally say “nucular?”
“We cannot repeat the Cold War” Right, if we gonna go to war with the Ruskies, yup yup, it’s gotta be a full-on, no A.C. , cock to buttcheeks hot war.
It really fucking pisses me off about how conservatards say “oh, Reagan won the Cold War”, like Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, and Carter were just jerking the Bear off for fifty years. Come on, Reagan was a diplomatic lightweight who didn’t know Russia from his own ass.
I really don’t see much to criticize about her performance. I doubt we would have got much better from either McCain or Obama on the Russia question.
UnindictedCo-conspirator: No Hukd on Fonix teleprompter this time.
I find that the best way to avoid fighting opponents is to spit in there face and court their ex-girlfriends.
We must fight them there or else we will be fighting them here. Didn’t you see Red Dawn?
Totally a fourth grade student answer: “If you’re in NATO you’re expected to protect other members when they are attacked.” What a sublime black and white world fourth grade was!
Sigh.
UnindictedCo-conspirator: Uh, remember in her speech the speech writers had to spell it phonetically for her as “new-clear.”
Ugh, won’t someone please save us from this twat.
What in the world is wrong with this person?
is anyone else concerned she didn’t about the bush doctrine? the best part was her attempt to get charlie to tell her about it. jeebus.
I do business with Russia, and the worst thing you can ever say to a Russian is “the US won the Cold War”. Half the reason we’re in this mess now is because W. keeps spouting off about that. Seriously.
But what I’ve seen on this interview so far EPIC FAIL. Anyone who’s even read Wonkette once is more qualified to be VP than this twatwaffle.
Weeping Jesus: Unfortunately, you are probably correct.
Um, point of order, but McCain would have said “Tsar,” not “Czar.”
You missed this part:
“It doesn’t have to lead to war and it doesn’t have to lead, as I said, to a Cold War, but economic sanctions, diplomatic pressure, again, counting on our allies to help us do that in this mission of keeping our eye on Russia and Putin and some of his desire to control and to control much more than smaller democratic countries.”
“It doesn’t have to lead to war and it doesn’t have to lead, as I said, to a Cold War, but economic sanctions, diplomatic pressure, again, counting on our allies to help us do that in this mission of keeping our eye on Russia and Putin and some of his desire to control and to control much more than smaller democratic countries. ”
Um, does she know what a cold war is?
…ladies and gentlemen, I give you the next (Vice)President of the United States! We are totally fukt!
StrangelyBrown: The wingers have been living in a cave for the last 6 years, and have missed the whole “Russia has a whole shitload of money now!” story. She still thinks this is 1995 and Yeltsin is running the show and paying troops 1/2 bottle of vodka per week instead of money.
Actually, McCain would have said “My Close Friend Nikki and his wonderful wife Alex.”
Dave J.: 1/2 bottle of vodka per week?
Sign me up with Boris.
…the sad thing is that her 2 dimensional, black and white, 8th grade civics student answers might actually make sense to the “Red States”.
No wonder she hates fetus poppin’-where else are they going to grow all of the soldiers for our massive land war in Eastern Europe? They might also have to let the gehz be in the army-I’m glad im old enough where I probably won’t get drafted for the great second battle of Leningrad.
Dave J.: Oooh, nice prose. And very long.
UnindictedCo-conspirator: I believe that was ‘new clear’. I like how she added talking points like “Russia, previously the Soviet Union” to make it seem like she knew what she was talking about. Shit, even 7th grade Civics students will roll their eyes when they hear that.
And the dropping of the ‘Rose Revolution’ & the ‘Orange Revolution’, please, you know she thinks those are college football bowl games. I’d love it if Charlie actually asked ‘tell me more about the Rose Revolution; what were the countries involved & for what purpose was it carried out?’
Oh well, I took Russian as my foreign language in college; my advisor said ‘Spanish classes are full & Russian only has 4 verb tenses.’ (dick). Looks like I may need it after all when I’m begging for my life & the life of my family. blahhh….
It doesn’t have to lead to war and it doesn’t have to lead, as I said, to a Cold War, but economic sanctions, diplomatic pressure, again, counting on our allies to help us do that in this mission of keeping our eye on Russia and Putin and some of his desire to control and to control much more than smaller democratic countries.
Oh, that’s rich. Which economic sanctions are you going to impose on Russia? I’m eager to hear the answer on this one.
Well she wiped the lipstick right offa that pig. Now I’ll have to remember where the bomb shelter is buried.
she looked angry and ready to crack at the end. biden will have fun with this one….
“And she fucked up?????”
That’s not a fuck-up. For Repubs, that’s just more red meat.
Besides, I refuse to believe that chicks who wear fur bikinis, made from the pelts of animals they personally slaughtered from black helicopters, are capable of fucking up. I love her because “she’s just like me.” [Except she wears bikinis, which look kinda dorky on tall, skinny guys like yours truly.] But I can’t wait to see what one looks like on shortspantsshorts.
it is brutally obvious that she was coached to say two things on this issue:
1) ukraine and georgia must be allowed in nato.
2) we can’t repeat the cold war.
once she got away from that, it was over. (and seriously, the rose revolution? does anyone believe she knew what the fuck that was two weeks ago?)
In Palin’s favor. If we do invade Russia, it wouldn’t cost us much. They’ve got enough oil to pay for their own reconstruction. And we’d probably be greeted as liberators. It would be a cakewalk.
…I have a feeling Joe Biden is throwing back whiskey and cokes with Gov. Jennifer Granholm right now!
My eyes…OMG I saw Nanook(ie) with Charlie - justifying sending her first born to Iraq…I’m blind!
We won the cold war “without a shot fired”?
Hmm. Maybe someone should have briefed her on the cold war, which just meant that the US and USSR did not fight each other directly because it would have ended the world, but instead fought each other through puppets and proxies all over the world. There were, actually, quite a few shots fired.
She should have asked McCain, who started it all when he stepped on a Romanov heir’s toes back in Crimea when he was working for the Kaiser.
Dave J.: Something tells me it won’t be on our poultry.
It’s as wonderful as I dreamed! Hope has returned. Today I drink in celebration not commiseration (like the last two weeks.)
sweetits: The right-wing blogs are already freaking out and calling it a “hatchet job.”
Serolf Divad: Also, I hear they have WMDs, so the pre-emptive strike is not only justified, but imperative.
Scary, scary woman, I’m going to the Obama website now to kiss Joe Bidens butt with money
satyricrash: Gorbachev won the Cold War. Just not for his side.
We are thankful that, under Reagan, we won the Cold War, without a shot fired, also.
First off, THAT’S WHAT MADE IT A COLD WAR!!!!! Gah! If there had been shots fired, we would not longer call it a cold war, we’d call it “the war.” Or, rather, we’d call it nothing, because we’d be dead.
Second, as pointed out by my colleague Gnaeus above, there were in fact numerous shots fired by proxies, most notably Vietnam, where her boss got drunk and crashed his plane into a lake and spent FIVE AND A HALF YEARS, ALAN!!! in prison.
Was it just me or did she have the tell-tale RED BLOTCHY neck of the supremely nerved-out???
And damn was she defensive — leaning forward the whole time with that TONE.
Someone please save us.
Dave J.: We’ll refuse to drink their vodka???
KevoTron: she will not be allowed to do another interview again. karl rove will dress in drag and attend the debate. or bristol will go into early labor and palin will have to cancel. you heard it here first!
KevoTron: Hahahaha. A “hatchet job?” It was Charlie Gibson, for crying out loud.
Jesus Christ. She spent a week with the fucking Bush foreign policy advisors and she didn’t learn about the Bush Doctrine.
And she was quoting Abraham Lincoln? Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! Hear that cock crowing Palin? Deny your god a couple more times…
Texan Bulldoggette: ‘Or as the Indians call it, ‘maize’. In conclusion, Libya is a land of contrast’
tunamelt: no shit. he stuck to middle school topics, and she FAILED. my 4 year old nephew could skool her ass.
I saw the outtakes from the interview. They deleted the part where she said, “I suppose Obama would just as soon grab his ankles and let the Flaming Red Russky Pigs ram an ICBM up his balloon knot.”
And I thought, “Why do they edit out the parts where she makes so much sense?”
tunamelt: Exactly. Imagine if it were Rachel Maddow.
tunamelt: Maybe Charlie untucked one of his nuggets because he’s been reading that no one in the world thinks he’s a credible journalist anymore after the debate debacle.
…I have a feeling that during the Vice Presidential debate Sarah Palin is going to be wired up like a DEA informant just to make sure she stays on topic.
Uh-oh, looks like Miss South Carolina has some competition on foreign affairs!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
“Without a shot fired” I have a strong feeling that McCain my disagree with that statement, just
a bit…
sweetits: tunamelt: Malkin just saw her precious White Knight (Klansmen?) blow it and she’s in meltdown mode over there. “Patronizing blah blah blah” It’s really quite funny.
In one breath her commenters will condemn the “MSM sexism” and then say something about how “easy on the eyes she is” and lambaste Michelle Obama as ugly and off-putting. Oh the irony…
it’s just straight talk, my friends. Bering Strait, that is (wokka wokka). someone whose name rhymes with Ballnuts! already said “there will be more wars”
Anyone know the early line on the Over/Under for the number of comments on this thread? I’m thinking top 5….
This just goes to show, you can’t make a silk purse out of a lipsticked pig.
sweetits: I’m with you on the Bush doctrine thing. She’s sending her son off to war to fight for ‘it’. She’s been traveling the country presumably defending ‘it’. Too bad she has absolutely no clue what that ‘it’ is. Now let the razing of Vladivostok commence!
OK, now I’m totally stupefied. I can’t think of anything more to add to what’s already been said here, except, “What the fuck, over?”, which is what we used to say on the radio on those crab boats in the Bering Sea when something completely didn’t make sense.
UnindictedCo-conspirator: Yep. Life’s a bitch without the teleprompter telling you how to pronounce “nuclear” with phonetic spellling.
sweetits: Seriously.
Gibson: Do you know the Bush Doctrine.
CB: Um, I know foreign policy! And Bushlike stuff!
Gibson: Sigh. Fine. What do you think about invading Pakistan, well, just because?
CB: Just dandy, Charlie!
My favorite part:
Gibson: So, other than being Governor of a state near Russia, what’s your foreign policy experience?
CB: Energy, blah, blah, blah. Oil, blah, blah, blah.
Gibson: Uh, you do know that there’s more to foreign policy than energy, don’t you?
Norbert: And just imagine, all of that experience being toe-to-toe with the Russkies up in Alaska didn’t help her a bit. How is that possible?
Gopherit v2.0: Texan Bulldoggette: sweetits: I’m impressed to note he has a bit of a spine.
The contempt the repukes have for the country is evident every time she speaks. If you can call it that. I am sooo depressed.
I bet a couple missile warheads at Svodbodnyy are being retargeted to Wasilla even as I type.
The Conservatards at the Corner think Gibson is a bad, bad man
I am so happy.
Gopherit v2.0: But she can see Russia from home! It’s a qualification for office, dammit!
SayItWithWookies:
Time for renting “Blast from the Past”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhGsBGK-ucg&feature=related
Something tells me that the video store’s copy of Red Dawn is going to be a hot rental.
WOLVERINES!
God help us.
fishcanoeski: Aw, it can’t be. Wasilla is part of the Refuge after Armageddon.
Serolf Divad: So true. Russia, previously the Soviet Union, (she is so proud to know that fact) has a long and storied history of treating its invaders like liberators–can’t wait for the battle of Putingrad. Should be a cakewalk like invading Iraq…
Texan Bulldoggette: Whoever is briefing her on NATO, Ukraine, Georgia, etc. must be as stupid as a dead moose. In other words a typical neo-con. Half the people in the Ukraine speak Russian, consider themselves Russians and want the border redrawn to include them in Mother Russia. Bringing them into NATO would be as effective as signing up Yugoslavia right after the death of Tito.
Any state carried by MaCain/Palin is clearly not ready to participate in free elections.
Cogito Ergo Bibo: I can see Southwestern Law School from my apartment, can I be Tsar of Education?
fishcanoeski: the Russians would be fools not to, Wasilla is home to some of our finest sharpshooters.
Texan Bulldoggette: Whoever is briefing her on NATO, Ukraine, Georgia, etc. must be as stupid as a dead moose. In other words a typical neo-con.
That person would be Randy Scheunemann, John McCain’s chief foreign policy advisor who is close personal friends with (and personal lobbyist to) the president of Georgia.
I thought this quote was telling (when challenged on her lack of experience and the fact she’s never met a foreign head of state) :
“we’ve got to remember what the desire is in this nation at this time. It is for no more politics as usual and somebody’s big, fat resume maybe that shows decades and decades in that Washington establishment, where, yes, they’ve had opportunities to meet heads of state…”
Hmm who does that sound like?
tunamelt: I never thought I would see the day that I a)respected Charlie Gibson or b) looked forward to his show. Can’t wait for part two! Maybe she will discuss how the “mexicans” are not part of god’s plan.
donner_froh:
Texan Bulldoggette: Whoever is briefing her on NATO, Ukraine, Georgia, etc. must be as stupid as a dead moose.
That’s a fair assessment, since it’s Dubya’s Foreign Policy Team.
Gopherit v2.0: They will be coughing up blood when (if) she is interviewed by someone just a bit tougher than Gibson. Which is almost anyone.
Wow. Just wow. Biden probably just creamed his pants.
Amazing, afer 8 years we are still hearing bush s**t, is she truly as stupid as it seems? I need to drink much, much more.
sweetits: She’d be right, though. Does it say Mexican in the American Bible? No, it clearly does not.
satyricrash: It’s a little known fact that Reagan, indeed, did win the Cold War. Single handedly.
Remember when Yeltsin was standing on that tank? Well, who do you think was driving that tank? Yes, it was the Gipper!
donner_froh: Regarding “Any state carried by MaCain/Palin is clearly not ready to participate in free elections.”.. That’s Statist! We can’t tar everyone in a state with the same brush. I just think if that a) you voted for Bush last time round and b) you’re one of the 70-80% who now think he’s doing a bad job, you should do everyone else a favor and abstain from voting this time round.
Palin: We can’t just let them invade Georgia.
We can’t allow Sherman’s March to the Sea again! (I know, too esoteric for Barbie).
I’m just sayin’.
Dave J.: Lovely. Would that make him the first choice for National Security Advisor under McCain?
tunamelt: Mexicans should learn English, if it’s good enough for Jesus, it’s good enough for them.
Dear Governor Dumbass
1) Does Jeebus and his angels have a whole fleet of C-17s that can magically transport all those troops and equipment to Roosha (because USAF don’t)?
2) Do you actually believe that pissant ABM test site will protect you from Putin’s missiles? A 90% failure rate isn’t something I can believe in (but it’s still better than prayer’s batting average.)
3) Where will find these troops to invade Roosha with? I don’t see all that many here or there. In fact I don’t see them anywhere, unless you want to draft’em.
4) How will you pay for this war? Unless you have a trillion dollars the Chinese don’t own, I’m thinking you can’t. Despite your belief in loaves and fishes miracle, it hasn’t worked so well on Wall St.
5) Holy fucking shit, you’re stupid. That’s not a question, but a comment.
MC
You know, you’d think she’d be prepared to talk about Russia, what with standing toe-to-toe and staring down Putin on the bering strait for the last twenty months. Whodathunk.
Ben Smith’s blog about this topic already has 335 comments on it. He usually has around 50 comments per post. Me thinks Mother Sarah may have opened up a can of worms on this. Why do I think Walnuts is going to have a press conference in the morning saying “silly woman didn’t mean what she said; we love Medvedev & Putin”?
Shit, I have to run to Blockbuster and get Red Dawn before the surge.
In Sarah Palin’s defense, going to war with Russia is God’s Will and all.
Wow, that settles it, if she’s ready, we’re ready. Laughable question, Charlie Gibson. Anyhow, here are a few comments on the first segment of the interview. She doesn’t know what the Bush Doctrine is . . . she said it was Bush’s world view. She won’t answer the question about crossing sovereign borders –I don’t think she understands international laws, or cares. She was pretty aggressive about the Russia thing. She was definitely nervous –she had hives on her neck. She pronounced nuclear *ahem* incorrectly. This woman is woefully out of her league. That’s all for now. She scares me a little.
http://themediaelite.blogspot.com/
tunamelt: If you can see Southwestern Law from your apartment, why are you shooting so low? Secretary of Education? Pfft. You wan the Attorney General position! Secret documents! Untold powers!
Somewhere, Obama, Biden and all the upper campaign staff are sitting around a television playing their favorite parts over and over, alternatively laughing their asses off and toasting each other.
Mental Health Bread: Hannity goes apeshit on invited guest economist: http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/11/hannity-meltdown/
Sarah Palin logic: Alaska should be set free from the death-grip of their domineering US overlords, but South Ossetia and Abkhazia… not so much.
here’s a good link
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/11/mccain-interview-on-palin_n_125743.html
maybe mccain & palin’s lies will play into their demise
You know what is really pathetic….she mentioned Reagan in the first sentence. Like if she said his name, that would settle any questions there might be on her qualifications.
In any case, when we declare war on Russia (the former Soviet Union), Trek will probably be able to pick up several very sweet rims because those Russkies are loaded and love themselves some bling.